Wanadoo 2Gb Capping Downloads AND Uploads Counted?

Hi,

I've just signed up to Wanadoo's 1Mb broadband with a 2Gb monthly
limit. I know that a 2Gb limit isnt much in the eyes of some but I
think it will be enough for me .... Unless the 2Gb includes uploaded
data.

I was surfing the web, listning to internet radio and watched a few
minutes of streaming music video. Every now and again I checked how
much data I have downloaded from the icon in my system tray and
noticed that I had used around 6Mb of uploaded data. I would have
thought that uploaded data would have been much less than this ...?
To my knowledge, the only data that should have been uploaded would
have been my computer requesting the HTML code for the websites I
wanted to look at (much less than 6Mb). The rest of the data would be
downloaded.

I run regular virus checks with the latest definitions, run regular
spybot checks and have the latest ZoneAlarm installed with strict
permissions on what can and cant access the net. So, ruling out any
spyware that may have gotten past the firewall/Spybot ... Is it normal
to have so much uploaded data from an hours websurfing?

Does uploaded data count towards the 2Gb limit on wanadoo?


Thanks in advance.


Andrew

andrew224 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just signed up to Wanadoo's 1Mb broadband with a 2Gb monthly
> limit. I know that a 2Gb limit isnt much in the eyes of some but I
> think it will be enough for me .... Unless the 2Gb includes uploaded
> data.
>
> I was surfing the web, listning to internet radio and watched a few
> minutes of streaming music video. Every now and again I checked how
> much data I have downloaded from the icon in my system tray and
> noticed that I had used around 6Mb of uploaded data. I would have
> thought that uploaded data would have been much less than this ...?
> To my knowledge, the only data that should have been uploaded would
> have been my computer requesting the HTML code for the websites I
> wanted to look at (much less than 6Mb). The rest of the data would be
> downloaded.
>
> I run regular virus checks with the latest definitions, run regular
> spybot checks and have the latest ZoneAlarm installed with strict
> permissions on what can and cant access the net. So, ruling out any
> spyware that may have gotten past the firewall/Spybot ... Is it normal
> to have so much uploaded data from an hours websurfing?

6 meg seems about right. Every packet that gets to your router/modem needs
an ackowledgement sent back to the sending computer. So yes, even if you
are only downloading data, something will still be uploaded.

I still can`t see how anyone could handle a capped service though. I reset
my machine 60 hours ago, and have uploaded 5 gigs, and downloaded 7. :-)

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In article <(E-Mail Removed) >, andrew224
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Hi,
>
>I've just signed up to Wanadoo's 1Mb broadband with a 2Gb monthly
>limit. I know that a 2Gb limit isnt much in the eyes of some but I
>think it will be enough for me .... Unless the 2Gb includes uploaded
>data.
>
I think the limit does refer to upload + download combined, but I can't
see anything on their site about it now. I have just moved from Wanadoo
dialup, but I gave their ADSL a miss. 2GB a month, I did that on my
first day on ADSL But horses for coursesI guess, it's OK if you're
just emailing and ebaying.
But you won't be capped yet anyway as it doesn't come in until the end
of the year.
http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/broadb...day&link=2&art
icle=TODinternet_access
Click the 'what does this mean' link.
>I was surfing the web, listning to internet radio and watched a few
>minutes of streaming music video. Every now and again I checked how
>much data I have downloaded from the icon in my system tray and
>noticed that I had used around 6Mb of uploaded data. I would have
>thought that uploaded data would have been much less than this ...?
>To my knowledge, the only data that should have been uploaded would
>have been my computer requesting the HTML code for the websites I
>wanted to look at (much less than 6Mb). The rest of the data would be
>downloaded.
>
>I run regular virus checks with the latest definitions, run regular
>spybot checks and have the latest ZoneAlarm installed with strict
>permissions on what can and cant access the net. So, ruling out any
>spyware that may have gotten past the firewall/Spybot ... Is it normal
>to have so much uploaded data from an hours websurfing?
>
>Does uploaded data count towards the 2Gb limit on wanadoo?
>
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>Andrew

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Simon Finnigan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<Snipped Text>
> > I run regular virus checks with the latest definitions, run regular
> > spybot checks and have the latest ZoneAlarm installed with strict
> > permissions on what can and cant access the net. So, ruling out any
> > spyware that may have gotten past the firewall/Spybot ... Is it normal
> > to have so much uploaded data from an hours websurfing?
>
> 6 meg seems about right. Every packet that gets to your router/modem needs
> an ackowledgement sent back to the sending computer. So yes, even if you
> are only downloading data, something will still be uploaded.
>
> I still can`t see how anyone could handle a capped service though. I reset
> my machine 60 hours ago, and have uploaded 5 gigs, and downloaded 7. :-)

It suits some, probably more than you'd think judging by the number of
capped services there are now. I downloaded 1.1Gb and uploaded 300MB in
my first month with Wanadoo.

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Thanks for the replies,


I guess 2 Gb per month is nothing if you are into downloading full
movies, albums, online gaming etc. If you just surf for a hour or so
a day, download a few 6mb MP3 files per week and send the odd email
then 2Gb is enoough.

People say that Wanadoo are not capping until year end. If this is
true then why are they offering their 6Gb and 30Gb per month packages
now? You can pay £17.99 per month or £27 per month and get exactly
the same service until the end of the year.

Andy Hewitt in uk.telecom.broadband on 06 Oct 2004

> It suits some, probably more than you'd think judging by the
> number of capped services there are now. I downloaded 1.1Gb and
> uploaded 300MB in my first month with Wanadoo.
>

I have 2Gb capped Wanadoo and it is fine for me as well. Perhaps there
are more people out there like you and me Andy who just want to surf
the net and send emails rather than download copyrighted music via P2P
and cracked software from warez sites.

andrew224 in uk.telecom.broadband on 07 Oct 2004

> People say that Wanadoo are not capping until year end. If this
> is true then why are they offering their 6Gb and 30Gb per month
> packages now?

Thats true but not everybody does full research before signing up so
they will always get some mug signing up for their 6Gb and 30 Gb
through ignorance.

Spoofman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt in uk.telecom.broadband on 06 Oct 2004
>
> > It suits some, probably more than you'd think judging by the
> > number of capped services there are now. I downloaded 1.1Gb and
> > uploaded 300MB in my first month with Wanadoo.
> >
>
> I have 2Gb capped Wanadoo and it is fine for me as well. Perhaps there
> are more people out there like you and me Andy who just want to surf
> the net and send emails rather than download copyrighted music via P2P
> and cracked software from warez sites.

Exactly. I also have a large install of BSD stuff too (aka Fink for Mac
OSX), and that can often run into hundreds of MB at a single download,
although that's not too often, only when a major update comes out. I did
one last month though. I also buy a few albums off the iTunes Music
Store.

However, as you say, I cannot possibly see how you can use more than a
couple of gig per month downloading legitimate files for domestic use. I
certainly couldn't afford to buy 2gig worth of albums from iTMS.

If you are indeed downloading that much legitimately, then the cost of
an uncapped service becomes irrelevant.

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On 7 Oct 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, Spoofman wrote:

>Perhaps there are more people out there like you and me Andy who
>just want to surf the net and send emails rather than download
>copyrighted music via P2P and cracked software from warez sites.

Making such assumptions is both dangerous and foolish. I'd be a
lot more careful before you tar legitimate users with such claims
as to what uses they make of the internet. Your view might be that
of a naive internet user, but to 'assume' that heavier use is down
to illegitimate traffic is simply ridiculous. Peter Morgan.

poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 7 Oct 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, Spoofman wrote:
>
> >Perhaps there are more people out there like you and me Andy who
> >just want to surf the net and send emails rather than download
> >copyrighted music via P2P and cracked software from warez sites.
>
> Making such assumptions is both dangerous and foolish. I'd be a
> lot more careful before you tar legitimate users with such claims
> as to what uses they make of the internet. Your view might be that
> of a naive internet user, but to 'assume' that heavier use is down
> to illegitimate traffic is simply ridiculous. Peter Morgan.

That's not the assumption at all, however, it is hard to see how you
could continuously download in excess of 2Gb a month, month after month,
without it becoming somewhat suspicious.

Certainly not as far as a domestic user goes anyway.

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