W2k to W98 nnetwork not working

Equipment :

W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)

Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network. But
neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set up a
network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is the
problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two computers
and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.

Thanks,

Karl

Start at these sites:

http://www.wown.com
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/

Both have "how-to" sites to tell you how to set up a home network.

--
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"KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> Equipment :
>
> W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
> W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
> Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)
>
> Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network. But
> neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set up
a
> network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
> protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
> Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is the
> problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two
computers
> and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karl
>
>
>
>

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:11:07 GMT, "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Equipment :
>
>W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
>W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
>Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)
>
>Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network. But
>neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set up a
>network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
>protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
>Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is the
>problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two computers
>and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.

Urg...You're not going to get too far without TCP/IP.

Try starting here: www.practicallynetworked.com

"KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)>...

> Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network. But
> neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set up a
> network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
> protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
> Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is the
> problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two computers
> and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.

Your problem is that you are running two different protocols. The Win98
machine is running Netbeui and the W2k machine is running TCP/IP. You need
to have them running at least one protocol in common. NETBeui is the
most simple for a two node LAN. TCP/IP is what you want for Internet
access. You can have both.

The following link will tell you how to set up NetBeui on Windows 2000:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../makeconn.mspx

And TCP/IP on Windows 98:

http://muweb.millersville.edu/~resne...p/win9598.html

which may not tell you everything you need to know for your setup.

--
Matt Hickman
I'm better than a lawyer, my mind is not cluttered with stale
precedents. I can be creative about it.
Robert A. Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
_The Star Beast_ c. 1954

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> Equipment :
>
> W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
> W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
> Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)
>
> Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network. But
> neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set up
a
> network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
> protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
> Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is the
> problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two
computers
> and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karl
>
>
>
>

"Matt Hickman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)>...
>
> > Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network.
But
> > neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set
up a
> > network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
> > protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
> > Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is
the
> > problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two
computers
> > and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.
>
> Your problem is that you are running two different protocols. The Win98
> machine is running Netbeui and the W2k machine is running TCP/IP. You need
> to have them running at least one protocol in common. NETBeui is the
> most simple for a two node LAN. TCP/IP is what you want for Internet
> access. You can have both.
>
> The following link will tell you how to set up NetBeui on Windows 2000:
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../makeconn.mspx
>
> And TCP/IP on Windows 98:
>
> http://muweb.millersville.edu/~resne...p/win9598.html
>
> which may not tell you everything you need to know for your setup.
>
> --
> Matt Hickman
> I'm better than a lawyer, my mind is not cluttered with stale
> precedents. I can be creative about it.
> Robert A. Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
> _The Star Beast_ c. 1954

I now am running TCP/IP on both computers and have given each one an IP
address of 192.168.1.1 or 2 and a Subnet Mask of 250.250.250.0. They are
both part of the same Workgroup. I sign onto both computers using the same
Name and Password. The Network Neighborhood on each computer shows only
itself and can ping only itself. I have a a ZoneAlarm firewall but it shows
no activity from the pinging and it probably should not. Any more
suggestions?

Thanks,

Karl

"Richard G. Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Ou$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Start at these sites:
>
> http://www.wown.com
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
>
> Both have "how-to" sites to tell you how to set up a home network.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (E-Mail Removed)
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Equipment :
> >
> > W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
> > W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
> > Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)
> >
> > Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network.
But
> > neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set
up
> a
> > network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client and
> > protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client for
> > Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is
the
> > problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two
> computers
> > and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Karl

I now am running TCP/IP on both computers and have given each one an IP
address of 192.168.1.1 or 2 and a Subnet Mask of 250.250.250.0. They are
both part of the same Workgroup. I sign onto both computers using the same
Name and Password. The Network Neighborhood on each computer shows only
itself and can ping only itself. I have a a ZoneAlarm firewall but it shows
no activity from the pinging and it probably should not. Any more
suggestions?

Thanks,

Karl

1. All firewalls must be off (or preferably uninstalled) until your
problems are sorted out.

2. The netmask should be 255.255.255.0 - but that's not part of your
problem. It is, however, good housekeeping and should be corrected.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (E-Mail Removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ZDfjc.25321$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Ou$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Start at these sites:
> >
> > http://www.wown.com
> > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
> >
> > Both have "how-to" sites to tell you how to set up a home network.
> >
> > --
> > Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (E-Mail Removed)
> > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:LiSic.21108$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Equipment :
> > >
> > > W98 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA ethernet 100 + modem 56 combo
> > > W2k Pentium 200MMX desktop with a Realtek NIC 10/100
> > > Linksys EtherFast 10/100 5-Port Workgroup Switch (hub?)
> > >
> > > Both NICs are working according to Settings->Control Panel->Network.
> But
> > > neither one can see the other. The hub lights are on. I've never set
> up
> > a
> > > network before. Should I assign an IP address to each? What client
and
> > > protocol settings should I have? The W2k computer is using 'Client
for
> > > Microsoft Networks' and the laptop is using 'NetBUI'. I think this is
> the
> > > problem, but I do not know how to load the same clients on the two
> > computers
> > > and which to use. I'd be greatful for some help.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Karl
>
> I now am running TCP/IP on both computers and have given each one an IP
> address of 192.168.1.1 or 2 and a Subnet Mask of 250.250.250.0. They are
> both part of the same Workgroup. I sign onto both computers using the
same
> Name and Password. The Network Neighborhood on each computer shows only
> itself and can ping only itself. I have a a ZoneAlarm firewall but it
shows
> no activity from the pinging and it probably should not. Any more
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karl
>
>
>

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:00:24 GMT, "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>I now am running TCP/IP on both computers and have given each one an IP
>address of 192.168.1.1 or 2 and a Subnet Mask of 250.250.250.0. They are
>both part of the same Workgroup. I sign onto both computers using the same
>Name and Password. The Network Neighborhood on each computer shows only
>itself and can ping only itself. I have a a ZoneAlarm firewall but it shows
>no activity from the pinging and it probably should not. Any more
>suggestions?

Change the subnet masks to 255.255.255.0 for a start.

Then launch a Command Prompt on each machine
Enter "ipconfig/all" (without the double quotes) and smack the enter key.
Cut and paste what you get into your next reply...

/daytripper

"daytripper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:00:24 GMT, "KH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >I now am running TCP/IP on both computers and have given each one an IP
> >address of 192.168.1.1 or 2 and a Subnet Mask of 250.250.250.0. They are
> >both part of the same Workgroup. I sign onto both computers using the
same
> >Name and Password. The Network Neighborhood on each computer shows only
> >itself and can ping only itself. I have a a ZoneAlarm firewall but it
shows
> >no activity from the pinging and it probably should not. Any more
> >suggestions?
>
> Change the subnet masks to 255.255.255.0 for a start.
>
> Then launch a Command Prompt on each machine
> Enter "ipconfig/all" (without the double quotes) and smack the enter key.
> Cut and paste what you get into your next reply...
>
> /daytripper

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : karl-p5mmx
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-54-13-50-8D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :


Windows 98 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . : NOTEBOOK
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


1 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM


2 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : Xircom Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56 PC Card
Physical Address. . . . . . : 19-02-16-08-01-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 250.250.250.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :