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Jordan
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      11-28-2006, 09:41 PM
Hi

Have used the RAS wizzard (custom choice, had to use this one because
of one NIC) to configure a RAS VPN connection.
This is a single NIC w2k3sp1 server.

The VPN client can map local drives at the server.

But can't map drives and shares on other servers on the local network,
which I want.

Do I have to "route -add" something?

Any clue?

Regards
Jordan
 
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Bill Grant
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      11-28-2006, 11:00 PM
There are two distinct things to look at here. They are routing and name
resolution.

Check to see if you can ping a LAN machine by its IP address. If you
can, routing is working, so adding static routes won't change anything. You
need to look at name resolution. If you are using DNS, check that the client
has the correct DNS server address and also the correct DNS suffix. If you
are relying on Netbios for name resolution, check that the client has the
correct WINS address.

If you cannot ping by IP it may be a routing problem. What IP subnet are
you using on the LAN? Does the remote client receive an IP address in this
subnet?

<Jordan> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> Have used the RAS wizzard (custom choice, had to use this one because
> of one NIC) to configure a RAS VPN connection.
> This is a single NIC w2k3sp1 server.
>
> The VPN client can map local drives at the server.
>
> But can't map drives and shares on other servers on the local network,
> which I want.
>
> Do I have to "route -add" something?
>
> Any clue?
>
> Regards
> Jordan



 
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      11-29-2006, 08:32 AM
Can't ping other servers on same LAN by IP, must be routing problem.
Client recieve IP in the same subnet, from server DHCP.
Server configured with DHCP, WINS, DNS and VPN RAS.

Nothing is configured in RAS Admin - No policy and no Static Route.

Route print listed - client IP masked xy.

IPv4 Route Table
================================================== =========================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x10002 ...00 53 45 00 00 00 ...... WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
0x10003 ...00 0b cd 4e f6 9e ...... HP NC7760 Gigabit Server Adapter
================================================== =========================
================================================== =========================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface
Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10
20
xy.xy.xy.xy 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 192.168.100.10 1
192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
20
192.168.100.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
20
192.168.100.107 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.110 192.168.100.110 1
192.168.100.110 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
50
192.168.100.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.100.1
================================================== =========================
Persistent Routes:
Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 1


Jordan


On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:00:40 +1100, "Bill Grant"
<not.available@online> wrote:

> There are two distinct things to look at here. They are routing and name
>resolution.
>
> Check to see if you can ping a LAN machine by its IP address. If you
>can, routing is working, so adding static routes won't change anything. You
>need to look at name resolution. If you are using DNS, check that the client
>has the correct DNS server address and also the correct DNS suffix. If you
>are relying on Netbios for name resolution, check that the client has the
>correct WINS address.
>
> If you cannot ping by IP it may be a routing problem. What IP subnet are
>you using on the LAN? Does the remote client receive an IP address in this
>subnet?
>
><Jordan> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>>
>> Have used the RAS wizzard (custom choice, had to use this one because
>> of one NIC) to configure a RAS VPN connection.
>> This is a single NIC w2k3sp1 server.
>>
>> The VPN client can map local drives at the server.
>>
>> But can't map drives and shares on other servers on the local network,
>> which I want.
>>
>> Do I have to "route -add" something?
>>
>> Any clue?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jordan

>

 
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      11-30-2006, 12:46 AM
If you are using IP addresses in the same IP subnet for both the LAN and
the remote machines, there is no real routing taking place, so there is no
point in adding any static routes. What should happen is that the server
acts as a proxy for the remote client. It does proxy ARP on the LAN. Other
machines on the LAN communicate directly with the remote client as if it was
on the LAN using its hardware MAC address. The server acts for it and relays
the data across the VPN link.

The only thing I am aware of that fouls this up is that some switches do
not properly handle proxy ARP well. If you are in that position, the best
idea is to put the remotes in their own IP subnet and route this subnet
through the RRAS server. (ie use a static address pool, not DHCP). This is
the best approach to take in all cases except a simple one segment-one
subnet LAN. The same subnet technique (called on-subnet addressing) was
developed to allow people with simple networks to get remote access working
without having to understand routing. In a routed network it is safer to use
off-subnet addressing (ie put the remotes in their own subnet) and handle
the routing yourself.

<Jordan> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can't ping other servers on same LAN by IP, must be routing problem.
> Client recieve IP in the same subnet, from server DHCP.
> Server configured with DHCP, WINS, DNS and VPN RAS.
>
> Nothing is configured in RAS Admin - No policy and no Static Route.
>
> Route print listed - client IP masked xy.
>
> IPv4 Route Table
> ================================================== =========================
> Interface List
> 0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
> 0x10002 ...00 53 45 00 00 00 ...... WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> 0x10003 ...00 0b cd 4e f6 9e ...... HP NC7760 Gigabit Server Adapter
> ================================================== =========================
> ================================================== =========================
> Active Routes:
> Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface
> Metric
> 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10
> 20
> xy.xy.xy.xy 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10 20
> 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
> 172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 192.168.100.10 1
> 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
> 20
> 192.168.100.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
> 20
> 192.168.100.107 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.110 192.168.100.110 1
> 192.168.100.110 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
> 50
> 192.168.100.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
> 20
> 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
> 20
> 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10 1
> Default Gateway: 192.168.100.1
> ================================================== =========================
> Persistent Routes:
> Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
> 172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 1
>
>
> Jordan
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:00:40 +1100, "Bill Grant"
> <not.available@online> wrote:
>
>> There are two distinct things to look at here. They are routing and name
>>resolution.
>>
>> Check to see if you can ping a LAN machine by its IP address. If you
>>can, routing is working, so adding static routes won't change anything.
>>You
>>need to look at name resolution. If you are using DNS, check that the
>>client
>>has the correct DNS server address and also the correct DNS suffix. If you
>>are relying on Netbios for name resolution, check that the client has the
>>correct WINS address.
>>
>> If you cannot ping by IP it may be a routing problem. What IP subnet
>> are
>>you using on the LAN? Does the remote client receive an IP address in this
>>subnet?
>>
>><Jordan> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Have used the RAS wizzard (custom choice, had to use this one because
>>> of one NIC) to configure a RAS VPN connection.
>>> This is a single NIC w2k3sp1 server.
>>>
>>> The VPN client can map local drives at the server.
>>>
>>> But can't map drives and shares on other servers on the local network,
>>> which I want.
>>>
>>> Do I have to "route -add" something?
>>>
>>> Any clue?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jordan

>>



 
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      12-07-2006, 04:10 PM
Problem solved.
It was the antivirus FW who caused the problem, even if the rule was
any-any.
After disabling the FW, connections to other resources works.

Thanks for helping!

Jordan

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:46:13 +1100, "Bill Grant"
<not.available@online> wrote:

> If you are using IP addresses in the same IP subnet for both the LAN and
>the remote machines, there is no real routing taking place, so there is no
>point in adding any static routes. What should happen is that the server
>acts as a proxy for the remote client. It does proxy ARP on the LAN. Other
>machines on the LAN communicate directly with the remote client as if it was
>on the LAN using its hardware MAC address. The server acts for it and relays
>the data across the VPN link.
>
> The only thing I am aware of that fouls this up is that some switches do
>not properly handle proxy ARP well. If you are in that position, the best
>idea is to put the remotes in their own IP subnet and route this subnet
>through the RRAS server. (ie use a static address pool, not DHCP). This is
>the best approach to take in all cases except a simple one segment-one
>subnet LAN. The same subnet technique (called on-subnet addressing) was
>developed to allow people with simple networks to get remote access working
>without having to understand routing. In a routed network it is safer to use
>off-subnet addressing (ie put the remotes in their own subnet) and handle
>the routing yourself.
>
><Jordan> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can't ping other servers on same LAN by IP, must be routing problem.
>> Client recieve IP in the same subnet, from server DHCP.
>> Server configured with DHCP, WINS, DNS and VPN RAS.
>>
>> Nothing is configured in RAS Admin - No policy and no Static Route.
>>
>> Route print listed - client IP masked xy.
>>
>> IPv4 Route Table
>> ================================================== =========================
>> Interface List
>> 0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
>> 0x10002 ...00 53 45 00 00 00 ...... WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>> 0x10003 ...00 0b cd 4e f6 9e ...... HP NC7760 Gigabit Server Adapter
>> ================================================== =========================
>> ================================================== =========================
>> Active Routes:
>> Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface
>> Metric
>> 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10
>> 20
>> xy.xy.xy.xy 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.10 20
>> 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
>> 172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 192.168.100.10 1
>> 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
>> 20
>> 192.168.100.10 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
>> 20
>> 192.168.100.107 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.110 192.168.100.110 1
>> 192.168.100.110 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
>> 50
>> 192.168.100.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
>> 20
>> 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10
>> 20
>> 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.100.10 192.168.100.10 1
>> Default Gateway: 192.168.100.1
>> ================================================== =========================
>> Persistent Routes:
>> Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
>> 172.16.0.0 255.255.252.0 192.168.100.250 1
>>
>>
>> Jordan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:00:40 +1100, "Bill Grant"
>> <not.available@online> wrote:
>>
>>> There are two distinct things to look at here. They are routing and name
>>>resolution.
>>>
>>> Check to see if you can ping a LAN machine by its IP address. If you
>>>can, routing is working, so adding static routes won't change anything.
>>>You
>>>need to look at name resolution. If you are using DNS, check that the
>>>client
>>>has the correct DNS server address and also the correct DNS suffix. If you
>>>are relying on Netbios for name resolution, check that the client has the
>>>correct WINS address.
>>>
>>> If you cannot ping by IP it may be a routing problem. What IP subnet
>>> are
>>>you using on the LAN? Does the remote client receive an IP address in this
>>>subnet?
>>>
>>><Jordan> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Have used the RAS wizzard (custom choice, had to use this one because
>>>> of one NIC) to configure a RAS VPN connection.
>>>> This is a single NIC w2k3sp1 server.
>>>>
>>>> The VPN client can map local drives at the server.
>>>>
>>>> But can't map drives and shares on other servers on the local network,
>>>> which I want.
>>>>
>>>> Do I have to "route -add" something?
>>>>
>>>> Any clue?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Jordan
>>>

>

 
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