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      05-24-2005, 11:32 AM
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> On 23 May 2005 19:17, Geoff Lane wrote:
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>>if you register with (free) http://www.dyndns.com/ who give you a semi
>>permanent address to use with a dynamic IP address.

>
> Since your application/hardware makes a connection to the VoIP servers to
> indicate you are online, your IP at the time can be reported or logged,
> so whether it is dynamic / static should become less important. PGM


yeah how does the server know that it is actual you? MAC address?


 
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      05-24-2005, 11:35 AM
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> On 23 May 2005 12:37 UTC, "Christo" wrote:
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>>I would have said there was no difference, perhaps SIP is more streamlined
>>for the specific task of VoIP, however i cant see how VoIP can be so
>>great,
>>what about dynamic IP address assignment?

>
> If you were able only to speak with people on the internet, then there
> would be no advantage, but if you check the VoIP facilities, you would
> find that calls can be made to and from the regular phone network too,
> something which isn't likely to happen with some IM system (but admit,
> adding a webcam might give the internet connection a plus).
>
> Some of the services allow cheaper, or even free calls to be made to a
> landline, and some offer a free geographic number which will ring on a
> PC, or dedicated hardware, or go to voicemail (and be sent as e-mail).
>
>>eventually the IP address replaces the telephone number system, somehow
>>dont think there are enough IP addresses to support that great a network

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> Don't forget that we're mostly using x.x.x.x format addresses but with
> IPv6 the number of addresses expands a lot ( x.x.x.x.x.x !!) Peter M.
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ah crap!! IPv6, same principles for subnetting?

default mask, 255.255.255.255.255.0?

bit of a mouthful


 
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      05-24-2005, 12:30 PM
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:32:56 +0000 (UTC), "Christo"
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>yeah how does the server know that it is actual you?


account login details in the VoIP software or firmware. MAC would be
no good as you may run VoIP software cleint on multiple machines.

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      05-24-2005, 12:37 PM
On 24 May 2005 11:32 (UTC), "Christo" wrote:
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>yeah how does the server know that it is actual you? MAC address?
>

All the VoIP services I've tried to date have user/pass entries. Since
some of them are charging funds for outbound calls, I just hope these
strings are sent in some encrypted way (in case anyone cares, those
accounts I have tried so far are primarily for incoming calls and yet
to be given any funds... Some services allow inbound via US gateways (ie
PSTN numbers allowing onward calls to VoIP networks), and some might be
called direct by other users of the same network, without any charges)


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      05-24-2005, 12:40 PM
On 24 May 2005 11:35 UTC, "Christo" wrote:
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>bit of a mouthful
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It's very rare one needs to enter an IP address, unless DNS has failed.

You can add your own entries into your local 'hosts' file, so for me to
ping 8 remote servers I just type ping sv1 or ping sv8 but equally
I can 'ping jessica' to check my friend's connection in Boston, USA.
 
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      05-25-2005, 06:26 PM
On Mon, 23 May 2005 12:37:52 +0000 (UTC), "Christo"
<lessthanchris666no (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>>So how does VoIP differ to connections made using MSN or similar?

>>
>> the protocols used are different, H.323 is/was used for video
>> conferencing, SIP is the preferred VoIP protocol. May mean better
>> quality, lower bandwidth, more reliability.


>I would have said there was no difference, perhaps SIP is more streamlined
>for the specific task of VoIP,


I assume instant messenger connections go via a remote server or can
it work peer to peer.

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