Virutalization Software

Here's my situation. I'm running virtualization software to test several
different OS on my Laptop and simulate a network enviroment. My question is
if I need to purchase additional software for withing the virtual machine for
the oS or will the OS on my laptop cover me? If so does anyone know a
affordable solution? I'm planning on having no more 10-15 machines in a
virtual envirment. Most likely it will be closer to 10.

Hi George ,

My understanding of your issue is you are concern about the license of the
OS in VPC. For licensing questions:

You can call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00
A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing
specialist. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft
Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to
find contact information in their locations.

Thanks for understanding.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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>>Here's my situation. I'm running virtualization software to test several
>>different OS on my Laptop and simulate a network enviroment. My question
is
>>if I need to purchase additional software for withing the virtual machine
for
>>the oS or will the OS on my laptop cover me? If so does anyone know a
>>affordable solution? I'm planning on having no more 10-15 machines in a
>>virtual envirment. Most likely it will be closer to 10.
>>

George:

Yes you need a license for each MS operating system running in virtual
Machines, excepts in case you are using Windows 2003 R2 and Virtual Server
R2 where you can use up to 4 Virtual machines with One OS License if i'm not
wrong (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...e/default.mspx

Be carefull with the product you are using for virtualization because
Microsoft does not support Microsoft products running on Non MS
Virtualization Software
http://www.support.microsoft.com/kb/897615

Hope this helps
regards

Oscar Soto Casali
MVP Directory Services


"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-(E-Mail Removed)> escribió en el mensaje de
noticias:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi George ,
>
> My understanding of your issue is you are concern about the license of the
> OS in VPC. For licensing questions:
>
> You can call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00
> A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing
> specialist. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft
> Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to
> find contact information in their locations.
>
> Thanks for understanding.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vincent Xu
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
> ================================================== ====
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> ================================================== ====
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others
> may learn and benefit from this issue.
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> ================================================== ====
>
>
>
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>>>
>>>Here's my situation. I'm running virtualization software to test several
>>>different OS on my Laptop and simulate a network enviroment. My question
> is
>>>if I need to purchase additional software for withing the virtual machine
> for
>>>the oS or will the OS on my laptop cover me? If so does anyone know a
>>>affordable solution? I'm planning on having no more 10-15 machines in a
>>>virtual envirment. Most likely it will be closer to 10.
>>>
>

Have you considered an MSDN operating system subscription?

"OscarSotoCL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> George:
>
> Yes you need a license for each MS operating system running in virtual
> Machines, excepts in case you are using Windows 2003 R2 and Virtual Server
> R2 where you can use up to 4 Virtual machines with One OS License if i'm
> not wrong
> (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...e/default.mspx
>
> Be carefull with the product you are using for virtualization because
> Microsoft does not support Microsoft products running on Non MS
> Virtualization Software
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/kb/897615
>
> Hope this helps
> regards
>
> Oscar Soto Casali
> MVP Directory Services
>
>
> "Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-(E-Mail Removed)> escribió en el mensaje
> de noticias:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi George ,
>>
>> My understanding of your issue is you are concern about the license of
>> the
>> OS in VPC. For licensing questions:
>>
>> You can call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday,
>> 6:00
>> A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing
>> specialist. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft
>> Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to
>> find contact information in their locations.
>>
>> Thanks for understanding.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Vincent Xu
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>
>> ================================================== ====
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> ================================================== ====
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>> that others
>> may learn and benefit from this issue.
>> ================================================== ====
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no
>> rights.
>> ================================================== ====
>>
>>
>>
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>>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
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>>>>
>>>>Here's my situation. I'm running virtualization software to test
>>>>several
>>>>different OS on my Laptop and simulate a network enviroment. My
>>>>question
>> is
>>>>if I need to purchase additional software for withing the virtual
>>>>machine
>> for
>>>>the oS or will the OS on my laptop cover me? If so does anyone know a
>>>>affordable solution? I'm planning on having no more 10-15 machines in a
>>>>virtual envirment. Most likely it will be closer to 10.
>>>>
>>
>

I think everyone is misunderstanding what I'm asking or I was not clear in
what I'm asking. I understand that I need a license for each microsoft os I
run in vm. My question is really relating to virus protection. My
undersatnding is I need seperate virus protection from what is on my host
system to protect each vm because even though I have virus protection on the
host system this protection does not protect to vm. I was ereally wondering
if anyone knew of an affordable virus solution for about 10-25 vm i plan on
running.

"Bill Grant" wrote:

> Have you considered an MSDN operating system subscription?
>
> "OscarSotoCL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > George:
> >
> > Yes you need a license for each MS operating system running in virtual
> > Machines, excepts in case you are using Windows 2003 R2 and Virtual Server
> > R2 where you can use up to 4 Virtual machines with One OS License if i'm
> > not wrong
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...e/default.mspx
> >
> > Be carefull with the product you are using for virtualization because
> > Microsoft does not support Microsoft products running on Non MS
> > Virtualization Software
> > http://www.support.microsoft.com/kb/897615
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > regards
> >
> > Oscar Soto Casali
> > MVP Directory Services
> >
> >
> > "Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-(E-Mail Removed)> escribió en el mensaje
> > de noticias:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hi George ,
> >>
> >> My understanding of your issue is you are concern about the license of
> >> the
> >> OS in VPC. For licensing questions:
> >>
> >> You can call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday,
> >> 6:00
> >> A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing
> >> specialist. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft
> >> Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to
> >> find contact information in their locations.
> >>
> >> Thanks for understanding.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Vincent Xu
> >> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> >>
> >> ================================================== ====
> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> >> ================================================== ====
> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> >> that others
> >> may learn and benefit from this issue.
> >> ================================================== ====
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no
> >> rights.
> >> ================================================== ====
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> microsoft.public.windows.server.networking:43529
> >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.networking
> >>>>
> >>>>Here's my situation. I'm running virtualization software to test
> >>>>several
> >>>>different OS on my Laptop and simulate a network enviroment. My
> >>>>question
> >> is
> >>>>if I need to purchase additional software for withing the virtual
> >>>>machine
> >> for
> >>>>the oS or will the OS on my laptop cover me? If so does anyone know a
> >>>>affordable solution? I'm planning on having no more 10-15 machines in a
> >>>>virtual envirment. Most likely it will be closer to 10.
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

If it is a temporary situation, you might want to think about 30-day
full versions of antivirus software. Even better, if you are planning
to stay within your "virtual environment" you could skip
antivirus-software if you use an internal LAN only, or connected to a
loop-back adapter. There is no way for a virus to get in there.
Might save you hardware investments too, as antivirus software will
take some (and sometimes a lot of) hardware resources......

Cheers,

Trumpeteer

George:

If you will connect your Virtual Servers to internet, yes you need an
antivirus for each one. Even in a Lan environment you need antivirus if you
are running some services to the network.
About the antivirus in the Host machine, remenber to exclude the Virtual
Server Directories from your regular Scans (in case the Virtual Machines are
in OFF state)

Regards

Oscar Soto Casali
MVP Directory Services


"Trumpeteer" <(E-Mail Removed)> escribió en el mensaje de
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> If it is a temporary situation, you might want to think about 30-day
> full versions of antivirus software. Even better, if you are planning
> to stay within your "virtual environment" you could skip
> antivirus-software if you use an internal LAN only, or connected to a
> loop-back adapter. There is no way for a virus to get in there.
> Might save you hardware investments too, as antivirus software will
> take some (and sometimes a lot of) hardware resources......
>
> Cheers,
>
> Trumpeteer
>