Virginmedia to throttle newsgroup traffic

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...506&highlight=

"As part of the roll-out and in order to ensure fair usage of available capacity
Virgin Media will be rolling out a new traffic management system at peak times,
designed to adapt to network conditions to ensure time-sensitive and interactive
uses – such as surfing or streaming high-definition video – remain unhindered by
non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"

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Geo

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:33:06 +0100, Geo wrote:

> to ensure time-sensitive and interactive
> uses – such as surfing or streaming high-definition video – remain unhindered by
> non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"

Entanet started doing that a few months ago; damned nuisance.

Because newsgroup access is important to me I am looking around for
an ISP that doesn't do that. (ICUK, perhaps?).

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"Geo" <hw9j-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...506&highlight=
>
> "As part of the roll-out and in order to ensure fair usage of available capacity
> Virgin Media will be rolling out a new traffic management system at peak times,
> designed to adapt to network conditions to ensure time-sensitive and interactive
> uses - such as surfing or streaming high-definition video - remain unhindered by
> non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"

And if it's anything like a restrictive as Tiscali's implementation even 1 and 2 kilobyte text
posts like this will grind to a halt in the evenings.

Eternal September support SSL on port 443, that should get round it if needs must.


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In article <(E-Mail Removed)> , Maurice
Batey <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:33:06 +0100, Geo wrote:
>
> > to ensure time-sensitive and interactive
> > uses * such as surfing or streaming high-definition video * remain
> > unhindered by
> > non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"
>
> Entanet started doing that a few months ago; damned nuisance.
>
> Because newsgroup access is important to me I am looking around for
> an ISP that doesn't do that. (ICUK, perhaps?).

A few weeks ago I left entanet because the throttling by was so bad
that in the daytime I couldn't even read text groups like this.

Kit

Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.broadband Job Justification Hearings, Maurice
Batey chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> Because newsgroup access is important to me I am looking around for
> an ISP that doesn't do that. (ICUK, perhaps?).

Be don't AFAICT, but all I do is read text newsgroups.

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"Geo" <hw9j-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...506&highlight=
>
> "As part of the roll-out and in order to ensure fair usage of available
> capacity
> Virgin Media will be rolling out a new traffic management system at peak
> times,
> designed to adapt to network conditions to ensure time-sensitive and
> interactive
> uses – such as surfing or streaming high-definition video – remain
> unhindered by
> non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"

Well done on completely missing out the main point of that PR, which is was
to announce that VM are at least DOUBLING* the upload speed on all their
cable broadband services. (The 50MB upload is being more than TRIPLED!)


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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:19:39 +0100, "Carl Waring" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Well done on completely missing out the main point of that PR, which is was
>to announce that VM are at least DOUBLING* the upload speed on all their
>cable broadband services. (The 50MB upload is being more than TRIPLED!)
>
The post was to point out what they are sliding in under the smokescreen - in
particular their new wheeze of throttling by data type.
If I had wanted to generally dis them I would have pointed out that they were
also applying throttlinf to their 50Mb customers for the first time as well.

I posted the link so anyone capable of clicking it could have read their PR
blurb for themseleves.

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Geo

On 01/10/10 10:28, Geo wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:19:39 +0100, "Carl Waring"<(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> Well done on completely missing out the main point of that PR, which is was
>> to announce that VM are at least DOUBLING* the upload speed on all their
>> cable broadband services. (The 50MB upload is being more than TRIPLED!)
>>
> The post was to point out what they are sliding in under the smokescreen - in
> particular their new wheeze of throttling by data type.
> If I had wanted to generally dis them I would have pointed out that they were
> also applying throttlinf to their 50Mb customers for the first time as well.
>
> I posted the link so anyone capable of clicking it could have read their PR
> blurb for themseleves.
>

i don't think most residential customers care about upload speed, only
businesses really

In article <i82fpp$hec$(E-Mail Removed)>, Graham.
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>And if it's anything like a restrictive as Tiscali's implementation even 1 and 2
>kilobyte text
>posts like this will grind to a halt in the evenings.
>
>Eternal September support SSL on port 443, that should get round it if needs must.
>
Fine as long as it's only a few playing that game but if it becomes the
norm then the isp spots the traffic and puts the IP address/block of the
nntp provider on low priority.
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>>
>> "As part of the roll-out and in order to ensure fair usage of available
>> capacity
>> Virgin Media will be rolling out a new traffic management system at peak
>> times,
>> designed to adapt to network conditions to ensure time-sensitive and
>> interactive
>> uses - such as surfing or streaming high-definition video - remain
>> unhindered by
>> non-time-sensitive traffic such as peer-to-peer and newsgroup activity"
>
> Well done on completely missing out the main point of that PR, which is was to announce that VM are at least DOUBLING* the upload
> speed on all their cable broadband services. (The 50MB upload is being more than TRIPLED!)
>
>

Quote:

> Virgin Media today announced another free upgrade for its fibre optic broadband customers, injecting an 'adrenaline shot' of > performance to boost upload speeds which will enable Virgin Media customers to share large files such as photos and videos at an > even faster rate. The upgrade has started to roll out and will automatically be applied to customers across the country on its up > to 10Mb, up to 20Mb and up to 50Mb services. Unlike some of its competitors' 'free' upgrades, customers will be able to take > advantage of these new upload speeds as soon as their area is enabled, without the need to sign up or re-contract. >

It's called "being cynical" Carl, a lot of us are into it, you should join us ;-)

Seriously, of course I noticed the positive side of the announcement, I have just
recommended a 50Mb shared VM pipe to a group of five students and I was a bit
worried about maxing out the 1.5 Mb U/L with VoIP and gaming.

It just seemed very ominous to see the sentence about Newsgroups (not even qualified with binary)
hidden away in there I know first hand what that meant to Tiscali subscribers, let's hope
VM implement it sensibly

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