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Malc
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      07-03-2005, 08:42 AM
Does anybody use internet connection sharing to allow an XP system to
access the internet via a 98 system?

I have ICS set up on my 98 computer which has an adsl modem. I've run
the wizard on XP to set up a network and selected the option to connect
to the internet through another computer on the network.

I've switched off firewalls on both computers.

The 98 computer says that 2 computers are sharing the internet
connection. The physical network is OK as I can see shared folders on
both computers.

But on the XP system internet explorer can't access any web sites. E.g.
www.bbc.co.uk fails with 'The page cannot be displayed'. But if I run
Command Prompt on the XP system then pinging www.bbc.co.uk works fine.

Is there somethng I have missed?

Thanks in advance

Malc



 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      07-04-2005, 07:41 AM
In article <0p-(E-Mail Removed)>, "Malc"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Does anybody use internet connection sharing to allow an XP system to
>access the internet via a 98 system?
>
>I have ICS set up on my 98 computer which has an adsl modem. I've run
>the wizard on XP to set up a network and selected the option to connect
>to the internet through another computer on the network.
>
>I've switched off firewalls on both computers.
>
>The 98 computer says that 2 computers are sharing the internet
>connection. The physical network is OK as I can see shared folders on
>both computers.
>
>But on the XP system internet explorer can't access any web sites. E.g.
>www.bbc.co.uk fails with 'The page cannot be displayed'. But if I run
>Command Prompt on the XP system then pinging www.bbc.co.uk works fine.
>
>Is there somethng I have missed?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Malc


This is a common problem with shared DSL connections that use PPP Over
Ethernet (PPPoE). Here's a possible fix:

1. Find the right MTU setting on the XP computer, as shown here:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107

2. Make the MTU setting manually on XP, or use DrTCP to make it:

http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html

This web page has more information:

Troubleshooting MTU Size in PPPoE Dialin Connectivity
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/router_mtu.html

If possible, I recommend using XP as the ICS host and Win98 as the
client. XP's version of ICS is much more reliable, and it doesn't
have the MTU problem if you've installed XP Service Pack 1 or Service
Pack 2.
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      07-04-2005, 07:02 PM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <0p-(E-Mail Removed)>, "Malc"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Does anybody use internet connection sharing to allow an XP system to
> >access the internet via a 98 system?
> >
> >I have ICS set up on my 98 computer which has an adsl modem. I've run
> >the wizard on XP to set up a network and selected the option to

connect
> >to the internet through another computer on the network.
> >
> >I've switched off firewalls on both computers.
> >
> >The 98 computer says that 2 computers are sharing the internet
> >connection. The physical network is OK as I can see shared folders on
> >both computers.
> >
> >But on the XP system internet explorer can't access any web sites.

E.g.
> >www.bbc.co.uk fails with 'The page cannot be displayed'. But if I run
> >Command Prompt on the XP system then pinging www.bbc.co.uk works

fine.
> >
> >Is there somethng I have missed?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Malc

>
> This is a common problem with shared DSL connections that use PPP Over
> Ethernet (PPPoE). Here's a possible fix:
>
> 1. Find the right MTU setting on the XP computer, as shown here:
>
> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107
>
> 2. Make the MTU setting manually on XP, or use DrTCP to make it:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
>
> This web page has more information:
>
> Troubleshooting MTU Size in PPPoE Dialin Connectivity
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/router_mtu.html
>
> If possible, I recommend using XP as the ICS host and Win98 as the
> client. XP's version of ICS is much more reliable, and it doesn't
> have the MTU problem if you've installed XP Service Pack 1 or Service
> Pack 2.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm


Thanks Steve

I changed the MTU size, but it didn't fix the problem. So, I'm going
extend my phone lead to the XP box and use that as the host.

Malc


 
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      07-05-2005, 12:20 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Malc"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Does anybody use internet connection sharing to allow an XP system to
>>>access the internet via a 98 system?
>>>
>>>I have ICS set up on my 98 computer which has an adsl modem. I've run
>>>the wizard on XP to set up a network and selected the option to connect
>>>to the internet through another computer on the network.
>>>
>>>I've switched off firewalls on both computers.
>>>
>>>The 98 computer says that 2 computers are sharing the internet
>>>connection. The physical network is OK as I can see shared folders on
>>>both computers.
>>>
>>>But on the XP system internet explorer can't access any web sites. E.g.
>>>www.bbc.co.uk fails with 'The page cannot be displayed'. But if I run
>>>Command Prompt on the XP system then pinging www.bbc.co.uk works fine.
>>>
>>>Is there somethng I have missed?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>Malc

>>
>>This is a common problem with shared DSL connections that use PPP Over
>>Ethernet (PPPoE). Here's a possible fix:
>>
>>1. Find the right MTU setting on the XP computer, as shown here:
>>
>>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107
>>
>>2. Make the MTU setting manually on XP, or use DrTCP to make it:
>>
>>http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
>>
>>This web page has more information:
>>
>>Troubleshooting MTU Size in PPPoE Dialin Connectivity
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/router_mtu.html
>>
>>If possible, I recommend using XP as the ICS host and Win98 as the
>>client. XP's version of ICS is much more reliable, and it doesn't
>>have the MTU problem if you've installed XP Service Pack 1 or Service
>>Pack 2.

>Thanks Steve
>
>I changed the MTU size, but it didn't fix the problem. So, I'm going
>extend my phone lead to the XP box and use that as the host.
>
>Malc


You're welcome, Malc. I think that using XP as the host is a much
better setup in the long term. If it doesn't work right, please post
another news group message with details.

Another possibility is to get an inexpensive broadband router to share
the DSL connection with both computers. That's even easier to set up
and more reliable that XP's ICS.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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