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Jim
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      01-29-2009, 08:46 AM
I have a client who is decentralizing their office. Their plan is to place a
key production operator in a home office offsite, access the server via a
virtual private network (via network drive mapping, not RDC). Documents
would/could be printed on her printer, which will be the office's Laserjet
5000 PCL6 printer which is currently connected to the office LAN via an
ethernet board, but will be moving to the remote office.

The printer is in the directory, and available to everyone in the office
currently to use to prepare documents. The server is Windows 2003, SP1.

I don't know how to set the printer up when the production operator moves to
her home office. Obviously, if the printer were attached to her workstaion
via USB or Centronics cables, or even attached to another computer in her
home LAN (she has 3 other computers on a wireless lan), she can print on
that printer herself.

BTW, Terminal Services is not involved, just mapping the drives on to her
workstation after the VPN is esatablised and she's logged on.

The virtual private networkis working fine for accessing the server. Logging
on to the workstation drives a "dial" to the VPN to the office and a
successful login. The problem is what to do with this printer from the
perspective of the other employees located back at the office that need to
print on her printer.

How do I configure active directory to tell the other workstations that this
ethernet connected printer, formerly at the office, is at the other end of
the VPN?

Can I configure the remote workstation that this ethernet connected laserjet
5000 is now driven by it at the remote LAN?

How do I get the office workstations the see, recognize, access, and print
to this laserjet?

This is what I have tried:

I have attempted to do an "add printer" to the domain controller/print
server to attemp to access it when the remote workstaion is connected via
VPN. I get access errors regardless if I attempt to access via the
\\workstation\printername or the http://workstation method, even if I
specifically use a local userid/password specifically defined on
"workstation."

The Workstation, BTW, is Windows XP Pro, SP3.

I am unsure what to do with the router in order insure the printer gets the
right packets. My understanding of VPN means that the raw print data coming
back should not require port forwarding even if the printer is ethernet
connected. The PPTP drivers on the workstation DO handle remote print
requests for physically attached computers, even if the printers are on
another workstation at the remote location (I know this because this is
exactly how my VPN connections works when I print using a terminal services
session).

So, what I need to do is make the domain controller and active directory see
and understand where this laserjet 5000 PCL6 printer is located so that
employee workstations at the office can see, find, and print to this now
remote printer.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

Your assistance will be highly appreciated.

Regards,
Jim


 
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Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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      01-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Sure, that should work. Assuming the printer is networking printer, can you
ping it by IP?

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"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a client who is decentralizing their office. Their plan is to place
>a key production operator in a home office offsite, access the server via a
>virtual private network (via network drive mapping, not RDC). Documents
>would/could be printed on her printer, which will be the office's Laserjet
>5000 PCL6 printer which is currently connected to the office LAN via an
>ethernet board, but will be moving to the remote office.
>
> The printer is in the directory, and available to everyone in the office
> currently to use to prepare documents. The server is Windows 2003, SP1.
>
> I don't know how to set the printer up when the production operator moves
> to her home office. Obviously, if the printer were attached to her
> workstaion via USB or Centronics cables, or even attached to another
> computer in her home LAN (she has 3 other computers on a wireless lan),
> she can print on that printer herself.
>
> BTW, Terminal Services is not involved, just mapping the drives on to her
> workstation after the VPN is esatablised and she's logged on.
>
> The virtual private networkis working fine for accessing the server.
> Logging on to the workstation drives a "dial" to the VPN to the office and
> a successful login. The problem is what to do with this printer from the
> perspective of the other employees located back at the office that need to
> print on her printer.
>
> How do I configure active directory to tell the other workstations that
> this ethernet connected printer, formerly at the office, is at the other
> end of the VPN?
>
> Can I configure the remote workstation that this ethernet connected
> laserjet 5000 is now driven by it at the remote LAN?
>
> How do I get the office workstations the see, recognize, access, and print
> to this laserjet?
>
> This is what I have tried:
>
> I have attempted to do an "add printer" to the domain controller/print
> server to attemp to access it when the remote workstaion is connected via
> VPN. I get access errors regardless if I attempt to access via the
> \\workstation\printername or the http://workstation method, even if I
> specifically use a local userid/password specifically defined on
> "workstation."
>
> The Workstation, BTW, is Windows XP Pro, SP3.
>
> I am unsure what to do with the router in order insure the printer gets
> the right packets. My understanding of VPN means that the raw print data
> coming back should not require port forwarding even if the printer is
> ethernet connected. The PPTP drivers on the workstation DO handle remote
> print requests for physically attached computers, even if the printers are
> on another workstation at the remote location (I know this because this is
> exactly how my VPN connections works when I print using a terminal
> services session).
>
> So, what I need to do is make the domain controller and active directory
> see and understand where this laserjet 5000 PCL6 printer is located so
> that employee workstations at the office can see, find, and print to this
> now remote printer.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions?
>
> Your assistance will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>


 
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      01-29-2009, 03:48 PM
"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have a client who is decentralizing their office. Their plan is to place
>a key production operator in a home office offsite, access the server via a
>virtual private network (via network drive mapping, not RDC).

<snip for space>

Forget the client computer-based VPN. Get a couple of hardware
firewalls/routers, like SonicWall, and configure them as LAN-to-LAN VPN.
This way you will solve the printing problem and a lot more.

ThePro

 
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      01-29-2009, 05:29 PM

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Sure, that should work. Assuming the printer is networking printer, can
> you ping it by IP?


From the server, I can see the workstation by IP address. Using the
\\workstation method, it says no path to the printer. Using the http://
method it clearly sees the workstation, but still finds no path to the
printer.

One issue is that the printer has not been moved yet to the remote site and
is still local. Testing has been on printers that are driven by a PC at the
remote site. So I don't know if I could ping it directly after it is
attached to the remote LAN until I actually move it.

>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a client who is decentralizing their office. Their plan is to place
>>a key production operator in a home office offsite, access the server via
>>a virtual private network (via network drive mapping, not RDC). Documents
>>would/could be printed on her printer, which will be the office's Laserjet
>>5000 PCL6 printer which is currently connected to the office LAN via an
>>ethernet board, but will be moving to the remote office.
>>
>> The printer is in the directory, and available to everyone in the office
>> currently to use to prepare documents. The server is Windows 2003, SP1.
>>
>> I don't know how to set the printer up when the production operator moves
>> to her home office. Obviously, if the printer were attached to her
>> workstaion via USB or Centronics cables, or even attached to another
>> computer in her home LAN (she has 3 other computers on a wireless lan),
>> she can print on that printer herself.
>>
>> BTW, Terminal Services is not involved, just mapping the drives on to her
>> workstation after the VPN is esatablised and she's logged on.
>>
>> The virtual private networkis working fine for accessing the server.
>> Logging on to the workstation drives a "dial" to the VPN to the office
>> and a successful login. The problem is what to do with this printer from
>> the perspective of the other employees located back at the office that
>> need to print on her printer.
>>
>> How do I configure active directory to tell the other workstations that
>> this ethernet connected printer, formerly at the office, is at the other
>> end of the VPN?
>>
>> Can I configure the remote workstation that this ethernet connected
>> laserjet 5000 is now driven by it at the remote LAN?
>>
>> How do I get the office workstations the see, recognize, access, and
>> print to this laserjet?
>>
>> This is what I have tried:
>>
>> I have attempted to do an "add printer" to the domain controller/print
>> server to attemp to access it when the remote workstaion is connected via
>> VPN. I get access errors regardless if I attempt to access via the
>> \\workstation\printername or the http://workstation method, even if I
>> specifically use a local userid/password specifically defined on
>> "workstation."
>>
>> The Workstation, BTW, is Windows XP Pro, SP3.
>>
>> I am unsure what to do with the router in order insure the printer gets
>> the right packets. My understanding of VPN means that the raw print data
>> coming back should not require port forwarding even if the printer is
>> ethernet connected. The PPTP drivers on the workstation DO handle remote
>> print requests for physically attached computers, even if the printers
>> are on another workstation at the remote location (I know this because
>> this is exactly how my VPN connections works when I print using a
>> terminal services session).
>>
>> So, what I need to do is make the domain controller and active directory
>> see and understand where this laserjet 5000 PCL6 printer is located so
>> that employee workstations at the office can see, find, and print to this
>> now remote printer.
>>
>> Does anybody have any suggestions?
>>
>> Your assistance will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>

>



 
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      01-29-2009, 05:30 PM

"ThePro" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>I have a client who is decentralizing their office. Their plan is to place
>>a key production operator in a home office offsite, access the server via
>>a virtual private network (via network drive mapping, not RDC).

> <snip for space>
>
> Forget the client computer-based VPN. Get a couple of hardware
> firewalls/routers, like SonicWall, and configure them as LAN-to-LAN VPN.
> This way you will solve the printing problem and a lot more.


Good idea. I'll invistigate and see if my client is willing to purchase the
equipment.

Thanks.


>
> ThePro



 
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