USB Network Adaptor

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:04:28 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Hello everyone
>
> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
> MAC Address of the USB?
>
> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
> with the use of software? TIA

Without software? As in, crack open the case and break out the soldering
iron? Not me.

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Hello everyone

I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
MAC Address of the USB?

How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
with the use of software? TIA

(I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)

Bobby

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
> MAC Address of the USB?
>
> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
> with the use of software? TIA
>
> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>
> Bobby
>
Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
way to change it.
Why would you want to?


It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
>> MAC Address of the USB?
>>
>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
>> with the use of software? TIA
>>
>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
>eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
>way to change it.
>Why would you want to?
>
>
>It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
>but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
>easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet

the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of
ROM silicon on you network card. there is no changing it in hardware.
(well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,
but it would take some research and time.) its there so that every
single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on
networks are minimized.

as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of
numbers to eliminate data confusion. but dont get the USB interface
on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.
USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum
allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small
compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can
connect.

if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless
device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,
if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network
youll have a VERY hard time getting in.


jesuslordgod. i actually sound like i know what im talking about.

scary.
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dave hillstrom wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> Hello everyone
>>>
>>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
>>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
>>> MAC Address of the USB?
>>>
>>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
>>> with the use of software? TIA
>>>
>>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
>>eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
>>way to change it.
>>Why would you want to?
>>
>>
>>It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
>>but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
>>easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet
>
> the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of
> ROM silicon on you network card. there is no changing it in hardware.
> (well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,
> but it would take some research and time.) its there so that every
> single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on
> networks are minimized.
>
> as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of
> numbers to eliminate data confusion. but dont get the USB interface
> on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.
> USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum
> allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small
> compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can
> connect.
>
> if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless
> device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,
> if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network
> youll have a VERY hard time getting in.
>
>
> jesuslordgod. i actually sound like i know what im talking about.
>
> scary.

Actually some windows drivers will let you change the MAC addy that is
broadcast, some 3Com cards if memory serves and probably some others, also
under linux it is trivial to change the MAC address.

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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:14:05 GMT, FrozenNorth
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>dave hillstrom wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>
>>>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
>>>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
>>>> MAC Address of the USB?
>>>>
>>>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
>>>> with the use of software? TIA
>>>>
>>>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>>>>
>>>> Bobby
>>>>
>>>Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
>>>eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
>>>way to change it.
>>>Why would you want to?
>>>
>>>
>>>It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
>>>but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
>>>easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet
>>
>> the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of
>> ROM silicon on you network card. there is no changing it in hardware.
>> (well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,
>> but it would take some research and time.) its there so that every
>> single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on
>> networks are minimized.
>>
>> as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of
>> numbers to eliminate data confusion. but dont get the USB interface
>> on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.
>> USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum
>> allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small
>> compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can
>> connect.
>>
>> if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless
>> device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,
>> if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network
>> youll have a VERY hard time getting in.
>>
>>
>> jesuslordgod. i actually sound like i know what im talking about.
>>
>> scary.
>
>Actually some windows drivers will let you change the MAC addy that is
>broadcast, some 3Com cards if memory serves and probably some others, also
>under linux it is trivial to change the MAC address.

i suppose if the cards firmware allows it, it might only initialize
the MAC from silicon, allowing it to be changed through software.

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"I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think he went
into this cheap motel room."
-Dave Hillstrom

dave hillstrom wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> Hello everyone
>>>
>>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
>>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
>>> MAC Address of the USB?
>>>
>>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
>>> with the use of software? TIA
>>>
>>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>> Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
>> eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
>> way to change it.
>> Why would you want to?
>>
>>
>> It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
>> but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
>> easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet
>
> the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of
> ROM silicon on you network card. there is no changing it in hardware.
> (well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,
> but it would take some research and time.) its there so that every
> single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on
> networks are minimized.
>
> as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of
> numbers to eliminate data confusion. but dont get the USB interface
> on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.
> USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum
> allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small
> compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can
> connect.
>
> if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless
> device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,
> if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network
> youll have a VERY hard time getting in.
>
>
> jesuslordgod. i actually sound like i know what im talking about.
>
> scary.

Can't you just drive by a Starbucks?

I a MAC address a Mac thing? What does MAC stand for?

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:50:37 -0400, "=^.FixCat.^="
<fixcatatherekittykittydotcomma> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>I a MAC address a Mac thing? What does MAC stand for?

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address>

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John Navas wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:50:37 -0400, "=^.FixCat.^="
> <fixcatatherekittykittydotcomma> wrote in
> <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>> I a MAC address a Mac thing? What does MAC stand for?
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address>
>
thank you!
i heard i have one
and it's working fine
:-)

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:50:37 -0400, "=^.FixCat.^="
<fixcatatherekittykittydotcomma> wrote:

>dave hillstrom wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>
>>>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'
>>>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the
>>>> MAC Address of the USB?
>>>>
>>>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible
>>>> with the use of software? TIA
>>>>
>>>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)
>>>>
>>>> Bobby
>>>>
>>> Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the
>>> eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any
>>> way to change it.
>>> Why would you want to?
>>>
>>>
>>> It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,
>>> but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not
>>> easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet
>>
>> the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of
>> ROM silicon on you network card. there is no changing it in hardware.
>> (well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,
>> but it would take some research and time.) its there so that every
>> single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on
>> networks are minimized.
>>
>> as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of
>> numbers to eliminate data confusion. but dont get the USB interface
>> on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.
>> USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum
>> allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small
>> compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can
>> connect.
>>
>> if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless
>> device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,
>> if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network
>> youll have a VERY hard time getting in.
>>
>>
>> jesuslordgod. i actually sound like i know what im talking about.
>>
>> scary.
>
>Can't you just drive by a Starbucks?
>
>I a MAC address a Mac thing? What does MAC stand for?

Media Access Control address

its nearly the lowest level in the protocol stack. just go look it up
on wikipedia, you.

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"I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think he went
into this cheap motel room."
-Dave Hillstrom