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Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit ethernet?

 
 
Dmitry Kopnichev
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      10-25-2005, 10:33 AM
Hello
Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB 2.0
Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?


 
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Bob I
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      10-25-2005, 12:28 PM
Please see the difference
http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm

Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
> Hello
> Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
> TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB 2.0
> Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
>
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Dmitry Kopnichev
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      10-25-2005, 12:38 PM
The http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm says nothing about Ethernet.
"Bob I" <(E-Mail Removed)> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
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> Please see the difference
> http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
>
> Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
> > Hello
> > Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
> > TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB

2.0
> > Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
> >
> >

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Bob I
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      10-25-2005, 03:13 PM
You asked about "constraints" for 100 mbit data connection. The ethernet
part is not relavent.

Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:

> The http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm says nothing about Ethernet.
> "Bob I" <(E-Mail Removed)> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
> news:ua6D9%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Please see the difference
>>http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
>>
>>Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
>>>TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB

>
> 2.0
>
>>>Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
>>>
>>>

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Arkady Frenkel
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      10-27-2005, 01:42 PM
Unless you'll find the server you can download from with a speed more that
12 Mb/sec you can use USB 1 ( I never saw that up to now )
Arkady

"Dmitry Kopnichev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm says nothing about Ethernet.
> "Bob I" <(E-Mail Removed)> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
> news:ua6D9%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Please see the difference
>> http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
>>
>> Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
>> > Hello
>> > Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
>> > TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB

> 2.0
>> > Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
>> >
>> >

>>

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Dmitry Kopnichev
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      10-27-2005, 01:59 PM
What if from several servers, several threads?
"Arkady Frenkel" <(E-Mail Removed)> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
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> Unless you'll find the server you can download from with a speed more that
> 12 Mb/sec you can use USB 1 ( I never saw that up to now )
> Arkady
>
> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm says nothing about

Ethernet.
> > "Bob I" <(E-Mail Removed)> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
> > news:ua6D9%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Please see the difference
> >> http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
> >>
> >> Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
> >> > Hello
> >> > Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
> >> > TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a USB

> > 2.0
> >> > Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

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Gary Tsang
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      10-27-2005, 04:21 PM
Only you can answer that (as we don't know what servers you are using).

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"Dmitry Kopnichev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What if from several servers, several threads?
> "Arkady Frenkel" <(E-Mail Removed)> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
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>> Unless you'll find the server you can download from with a speed more
>> that
>> 12 Mb/sec you can use USB 1 ( I never saw that up to now )
>> Arkady
>>
>> "Dmitry Kopnichev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > The http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm says nothing about

> Ethernet.
>> > "Bob I" <(E-Mail Removed)> ???????/???????? ? ???????? ?????????:
>> > news:ua6D9%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Please see the difference
>> >> http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
>> >>
>> >> Dmitry Kopnichev wrote:
>> >> > Hello
>> >> > Is USB 1.1 speed a constraint for 100 mbit Ethernet? Should I change
>> >> > TRENDnet MEDIAnet USB 1.1 To Fast Ethernet Adapter TU-ET100C to a
>> >> > USB
>> > 2.0
>> >> > Adapter to use full 100 mbit Ethernet?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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      10-27-2005, 05:18 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that with USB devices, the CPU does
all the work in managing the traffic.

I have seen CPU usage numbers for USB ethernet run steadily at
about 35% with peaks at 60% on a 2.4 GHz P4 - even though the
computer owner's broadband connection was only 2 Mbps.

He was very frequently getting slow network speeds when the CPU
was too busy to give the USB ethernet the attention it needed.
Conversely, if the CPU was giving too many cpu cycles to the USB
ethernet, then performance in other apps really suffered and the
system was unresponsive to user input.

Since this guy liked to play multi-player games over the www,
having the network connection eat up so much of his CPU's
frequently meant stuttering performance in the games.
Conversely, if he gave the game a higher priority, then not
enough CPU cycles were left for USB ethernet.

Installing a real NIC into a PCI slot solved that user's
problems. A $30 NIC did far more for his gaming performance than
his $400 video card upgrade. CPU usage by the PCI NIC seldom
hits 4%.


 
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Gary Tsang
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      10-27-2005, 07:00 PM
Yeah, that's definitely another consideration.

Unless the OP is using a laptop, he really should just get an actual network
card, rather than trying to pipe it through USB. While USB may seem more
convenient, it really isn't as good as using an actual ethernet card.

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Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp


"Rob Stow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> One thing to keep in mind is that with USB devices, the CPU does all the
> work in managing the traffic.
>
> I have seen CPU usage numbers for USB ethernet run steadily at about 35%
> with peaks at 60% on a 2.4 GHz P4 - even though the computer owner's
> broadband connection was only 2 Mbps.
>
> He was very frequently getting slow network speeds when the CPU was too
> busy to give the USB ethernet the attention it needed. Conversely, if the
> CPU was giving too many cpu cycles to the USB ethernet, then performance
> in other apps really suffered and the system was unresponsive to user
> input.
>
> Since this guy liked to play multi-player games over the www, having the
> network connection eat up so much of his CPU's frequently meant stuttering
> performance in the games. Conversely, if he gave the game a higher
> priority, then not enough CPU cycles were left for USB ethernet.
>
> Installing a real NIC into a PCI slot solved that user's problems. A $30
> NIC did far more for his gaming performance than his $400 video card
> upgrade. CPU usage by the PCI NIC seldom hits 4%.
>
>



 
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Dmitry Kopnichev
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      10-28-2005, 05:15 AM
I have not seen high CPU usage by USB NIC yet. I bought USB NIC to
disconnect it quick.
"Gary Tsang" <(E-Mail Removed)> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah, that's definitely another consideration.
>
> Unless the OP is using a laptop, he really should just get an actual

network
> card, rather than trying to pipe it through USB. While USB may seem more
> convenient, it really isn't as good as using an actual ethernet card.
>
> --
> Gary Tsang
> Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
>
>
> "Rob Stow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > One thing to keep in mind is that with USB devices, the CPU does all the
> > work in managing the traffic.
> >
> > I have seen CPU usage numbers for USB ethernet run steadily at about 35%
> > with peaks at 60% on a 2.4 GHz P4 - even though the computer owner's
> > broadband connection was only 2 Mbps.
> >
> > He was very frequently getting slow network speeds when the CPU was too
> > busy to give the USB ethernet the attention it needed. Conversely, if

the
> > CPU was giving too many cpu cycles to the USB ethernet, then performance
> > in other apps really suffered and the system was unresponsive to user
> > input.
> >
> > Since this guy liked to play multi-player games over the www, having the
> > network connection eat up so much of his CPU's frequently meant

stuttering
> > performance in the games. Conversely, if he gave the game a higher
> > priority, then not enough CPU cycles were left for USB ethernet.
> >
> > Installing a real NIC into a PCI slot solved that user's problems. A

$30
> > NIC did far more for his gaming performance than his $400 video card
> > upgrade. CPU usage by the PCI NIC seldom hits 4%.
> >
> >

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>



 
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