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Tony
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      07-14-2004, 12:04 AM
Anyone know how much slower an 802.11g USB adapter is when hooked to a
USB 1.1 port? Will it operate at "b" speeds or closer to 'g' speeds?

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Bob Alston
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      07-14-2004, 12:34 AM


"Tony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Anyone know how much slower an 802.11g USB adapter is when hooked to a
> USB 1.1 port? Will it operate at "b" speeds or closer to 'g' speeds?
>
> TP


USB 1.1 port max rate is 11mbps. G is max 54 Mbps.

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      07-14-2004, 04:46 AM
Only at 11b speed. Since USB 1.1 only supports 12Mbps data transfer rate,
while
2.0 up to 480Mbps, far more than 11g's 54Mbps.


"Tony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Anyone know how much slower an 802.11g USB adapter is when hooked to a
> USB 1.1 port? Will it operate at "b" speeds or closer to 'g' speeds?
>
> TP


 
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      07-14-2004, 12:36 PM
Walker wrote:
> Only at 11b speed. Since USB 1.1 only supports 12Mbps data transfer rate,
> while
> 2.0 up to 480Mbps, far more than 11g's 54Mbps.
>
>
> "Tony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>>Anyone know how much slower an 802.11g USB adapter is when hooked to a
>>USB 1.1 port? Will it operate at "b" speeds or closer to 'g' speeds?
>>
>>TP

>
>



Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
port/hub?

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dold@USBX1X1Xwi.usenet.us.com
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      07-14-2004, 04:05 PM
Tony <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
> port/hub?


Two ways:
I have a cheap (free after rebate) 1.1 hub, and a 2.0 flash drive.
If I plug the flash into the hub into a 2.0 port, I get a complaint from
WinXP that I have a less-than-optimum arrangement.

start-settings-control panel-system-hardware-device manager
Click on +Universal Serial Bus Controllers.
If Enhanced appears, you have 2.0.
"Intel PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller"
Standard is 1.1, which also appears under any 2.0 controller by spec.
"Standard Universal PCI to USB Host Controller"
My Dell also shows "USB 2.0 root hub" which is fairly obvious, but that
only appears on some machines (with multiple USB ports).

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Jeff Liebermann
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      07-14-2004, 04:13 PM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:36:30 -0400, Tony <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
>port/hub?
>TP


If it were easy, it would be no fun.

1. Read the data sheet on the PC manufacturers web pile.
2. Dive into the Windoze Control panel -> System -> Hardware(?) and
see if there's a USB 2.0 port listed.
3. Plug in a USB 2.0 device and watch Windoze complain with a message
that it can only find a USB 1.1 device. This varies with drivers.
4. Download and run one of the free system information tools.
http://www.belarc.com
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download181.html

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      07-14-2004, 05:30 PM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:13:44 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:36:30 -0400, Tony <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
>>port/hub?
>>TP

>
> If it were easy, it would be no fun.
>
> 1. Read the data sheet on the PC manufacturers web pile.
> 2. Dive into the Windoze Control panel -> System -> Hardware(?) and
> see if there's a USB 2.0 port listed.


In Control panel -> System -> Devices, if there is a USB 2.0 there will be
entries for standard USB and an additional entry for USB 2.0 or Enhanced
USB.

> 3. Plug in a USB 2.0 device and watch Windoze complain with a message
> that it can only find a USB 1.1 device. This varies with drivers.
> 4. Download and run one of the free system information tools.
> http://www.belarc.com
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download181.html

 
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Bob Alston
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      07-14-2004, 09:02 PM



"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:36:30 -0400, Tony <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
> >port/hub?
> >TP

>
> If it were easy, it would be no fun.
>
> 1. Read the data sheet on the PC manufacturers web pile.
> 2. Dive into the Windoze Control panel -> System -> Hardware(?) and
> see if there's a USB 2.0 port listed.
> 3. Plug in a USB 2.0 device and watch Windoze complain with a message
> that it can only find a USB 1.1 device. This varies with drivers.
> 4. Download and run one of the free system information tools.
> http://www.belarc.com
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download181.html
>
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> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558


Jeff -

I have the AIDA32 utility and it could not tell me what kind of USB adapter
my Dell DImension 4400 had. Are you sure it and the other one will? If so,
exactly where do I look in the results?

I eventually used the AIDA32 info on motherboard to go to the Intel site and
look up the specs for my motherboard.

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      07-14-2004, 11:24 PM

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Tony <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Anyone know an easy way to determine whether or not a pc has a 2.0 USB
> > port/hub?

>
> Two ways:
> I have a cheap (free after rebate) 1.1 hub, and a 2.0 flash drive.
> If I plug the flash into the hub into a 2.0 port, I get a complaint from
> WinXP that I have a less-than-optimum arrangement.
>
> start-settings-control panel-system-hardware-device manager
> Click on +Universal Serial Bus Controllers.
> If Enhanced appears, you have 2.0.
> "Intel PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller"
> Standard is 1.1, which also appears under any 2.0 controller by spec.
> "Standard Universal PCI to USB Host Controller"
> My Dell also shows "USB 2.0 root hub" which is fairly obvious, but that
> only appears on some machines (with multiple USB ports).
>
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>


So "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller" means I have a USB 2.0
port? THat's what the Belarc tool reports to me.

TP


 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      07-15-2004, 12:45 AM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:02:48 -0500, "Bob Alston" <bobalston AT aol
DOT com> wrote:

>> 4. Download and run one of the free system information tools.
>> http://www.belarc.com
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download181.html


>I have the AIDA32 utility and it could not tell me what kind of USB adapter
>my Dell DImension 4400 had. Are you sure it and the other one will? If so,
>exactly where do I look in the results?


AIDA32 version 3.93.
1. Devices -> Windoze Devices -> USB 2.0 Root Hub
2. Devices -> Physical Devices -> PCI Devices -> NEC USB Enhanced
Host Controller.

>I eventually used the AIDA32 info on motherboard to go to the Intel site and
>look up the specs for my motherboard.


Yep. That also works.

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