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ps56k
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      08-28-2010, 06:42 AM
Just tested a newly purchased Dlink DIR-601 router for our son to take back
to school...
Left it setup with the local 192.168..0.1 address
and plugged it into our local 192.168.1.x network to get a WAN side DHCP
address.
Worked fine - hardwire and WiFi -

I also think I stumbled onto what I thought was an ICS or 192.168.0.1 issue
that I posted in another thread,
but now think it really is the uPnP router feature/setup.
I have that feature disabled on my local routers,
so never really saw it pop up on Windows Network Connections (XP).

So - I read about what uPnP does,
and wondering if and when it really should be enabled ?

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      08-28-2010, 07:20 PM
In message <i5ab5b$sok$(E-Mail Removed)> "ps56k"
<(E-Mail Removed)> was claimed to have wrote:

>Just tested a newly purchased Dlink DIR-601 router for our son to take back
>to school...
>Left it setup with the local 192.168..0.1 address
>and plugged it into our local 192.168.1.x network to get a WAN side DHCP
>address.
>Worked fine - hardwire and WiFi -
>
>I also think I stumbled onto what I thought was an ICS or 192.168.0.1 issue
>that I posted in another thread,
>but now think it really is the uPnP router feature/setup.
>I have that feature disabled on my local routers,
>so never really saw it pop up on Windows Network Connections (XP).
>
>So - I read about what uPnP does,
>and wondering if and when it really should be enabled ?


The short answer is that uPNP allows a application to request a port
forward or other router configuration changes without manual
configuration.

Some routers have bugs that allow malicious software to have more power
than they should, but as a rule this type of exploit needs malicious
software already running on the PC anyway, so it's like being a little
bit pregnant, there's little practical difference between being
compromised and being more compromised.

That being said, I'd turn it off and configure port forwarding manually
in most configurations.
 
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      08-29-2010, 05:40 AM
In message <(E-Mail Removed)> John Navas
<(E-Mail Removed)> was claimed to have wrote:

>>The short answer is that uPNP allows a application to request a port
>>forward or other router configuration changes without manual
>>configuration.
>>
>>Some routers have bugs that allow malicious software to have more power
>>than they should, but as a rule this type of exploit needs malicious
>>software already running on the PC anyway, so it's like being a little
>>bit pregnant, there's little practical difference between being
>>compromised and being more compromised.

>
>That "rule" is incomplete -- there are also _external_ exploits.


Sure, but external exploits are on the wrong side of the NAT / firewall
to open a port using UPnP.

If the router is buggy enough to accept UPnP requests from outside,
you've likely got other design flaws that will bite you long before this
one does.
 
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