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Leon Horsnell
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      06-26-2005, 01:08 PM
Whats a good way to understand wifi hotspots how and who to connect to etc
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      06-26-2005, 02:56 PM
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:08:15 GMT, "Leon Horsnell" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Whats a good way to understand wifi hotspots how and who to connect to etc
>thanks
>leon


Well, you could use Google Groups to search for previous postings on
the topic. However, may I suggest you disclose a bit more about what
you are trying to accomplish and what you have to work with so more
specific answer could be fabricated. From your one liner, it's
difficult to tell if you want locations, security hints, construction
articles, or hacking information.


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Leon Horsnell
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      06-26-2005, 08:54 PM
I am going overseas from australia and wondered if I could connect to my
broadband internet provider whilst overseas. or does one need a special
provider for wifi. i have purchased an old jornada 680 and wondered if i put
a wifi card in it would i be able to browse the net in an english or swiss
cafe etc
Hope that is clearer but i was also looking for a general understanding
thanks for your reply
leon
"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:08:15 GMT, "Leon Horsnell" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>Whats a good way to understand wifi hotspots how and who to connect to etc
>>thanks
>>leon

>
> Well, you could use Google Groups to search for previous postings on
> the topic. However, may I suggest you disclose a bit more about what
> you are trying to accomplish and what you have to work with so more
> specific answer could be fabricated. From your one liner, it's
> difficult to tell if you want locations, security hints, construction
> articles, or hacking information.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558



 
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Des
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      06-27-2005, 08:47 AM

"Leon Horsnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am going overseas from australia and wondered if I could connect to my
> broadband internet provider whilst overseas. or does one need a special
> provider for wifi. i have purchased an old jornada 680 and wondered if i

put
> a wifi card in it would i be able to browse the net in an english or swiss
> cafe etc


If you look at btopenzone.com there is a download, pdf or excell, that gives
all BTs' roaing sites worldwide, may give you an idea what what that company
does regards roaming.

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      06-27-2005, 03:56 PM
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:54:24 GMT, "Leon Horsnell" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I am going overseas from australia and wondered if I could connect to my
>broadband internet provider whilst overseas. or does one need a special
>provider for wifi. i have purchased an old jornada 680 and wondered if i put
>a wifi card in it would i be able to browse the net in an english or swiss
>cafe etc
>Hope that is clearer but i was also looking for a general understanding


Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "connect". Your existing
broadband ISP probably does NOT offer connectivity service in a
different country. However, you can pickup your email from your
existing broadband ISP from anywhere on the internet. Once you're
connected to the internet, the rest is fairly easy.

What Wi-Fi wireless does is connect you to the internet EXACTLY as if
your were plugged in via an ethernet cable. It's literally a wireless
extension cord replacement for ethernet. If you can connect by
plugging in, you can do the same via Wi-Fi. Many hotel have both
ethernet jacks and wireless.

Like ethernet, you don't just walk around plugging into other peoples
ethernet connections at random. Wi-Fi requires permission of the hot
spot owner. Some require payments, other are free. Some cities
provide service for free. Some individuals publicly share their
connection. Usually there are signs or online directories that will
give you a clue of what to expect. I'm not familiar with Australia
and can't offer specifics.

Once you've connected to the internet via Wi-Fi, you can pickup your
email from your existing broadband provider. Depending upon
configuration (POP3 before SMTP), you may also be able to send email
via your existing broadband provider without changing any of your
email program settings.

However, there's a catch. Public Wi-Fi is unencrypted and therefore
can be intercepted, sniffed, and abused. Your email logins and
password are going over the air in plain text and can be captured.
This is a major security issue and should be carefully considered.
There are solutions, the easiest of which is to use SSL secured
(https://) type of WebMail to your existing broadband ISP. There are
also VPN solutions. Ask your existing broadband ISP.

The same security issues apply to using credit card numbers via
wireless, or sending or receiving any form of communications that you
don't to keep private.

You should also be sure that what you're connecting to via Wi-Fi is
not a fake access point. See:
| http://www.wi-fi.org/membersonly/get..._For_Web_2.pdf
If you can do most of your surfing or email using SSL (https://),
you're fairly safe from sniffing. Also, be sure to setup your
wireless laptop client so that it does *NOT* automatically connect to
any random access point, but that it requires you to manually select
the desired connection.


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      06-29-2005, 01:54 AM
thanks for your input
I feel i have some general understanding now al i have to do is find a
suitable wifi card and give it a go
leon
"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:54:24 GMT, "Leon Horsnell" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>I am going overseas from australia and wondered if I could connect to my
>>broadband internet provider whilst overseas. or does one need a special
>>provider for wifi. i have purchased an old jornada 680 and wondered if i
>>put
>>a wifi card in it would i be able to browse the net in an english or swiss
>>cafe etc
>>Hope that is clearer but i was also looking for a general understanding

>
> Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "connect". Your existing
> broadband ISP probably does NOT offer connectivity service in a
> different country. However, you can pickup your email from your
> existing broadband ISP from anywhere on the internet. Once you're
> connected to the internet, the rest is fairly easy.
>
> What Wi-Fi wireless does is connect you to the internet EXACTLY as if
> your were plugged in via an ethernet cable. It's literally a wireless
> extension cord replacement for ethernet. If you can connect by
> plugging in, you can do the same via Wi-Fi. Many hotel have both
> ethernet jacks and wireless.
>
> Like ethernet, you don't just walk around plugging into other peoples
> ethernet connections at random. Wi-Fi requires permission of the hot
> spot owner. Some require payments, other are free. Some cities
> provide service for free. Some individuals publicly share their
> connection. Usually there are signs or online directories that will
> give you a clue of what to expect. I'm not familiar with Australia
> and can't offer specifics.
>
> Once you've connected to the internet via Wi-Fi, you can pickup your
> email from your existing broadband provider. Depending upon
> configuration (POP3 before SMTP), you may also be able to send email
> via your existing broadband provider without changing any of your
> email program settings.
>
> However, there's a catch. Public Wi-Fi is unencrypted and therefore
> can be intercepted, sniffed, and abused. Your email logins and
> password are going over the air in plain text and can be captured.
> This is a major security issue and should be carefully considered.
> There are solutions, the easiest of which is to use SSL secured
> (https://) type of WebMail to your existing broadband ISP. There are
> also VPN solutions. Ask your existing broadband ISP.
>
> The same security issues apply to using credit card numbers via
> wireless, or sending or receiving any form of communications that you
> don't to keep private.
>
> You should also be sure that what you're connecting to via Wi-Fi is
> not a fake access point. See:
> | http://www.wi-fi.org/membersonly/get..._For_Web_2.pdf
> If you can do most of your surfing or email using SSL (https://),
> you're fairly safe from sniffing. Also, be sure to setup your
> wireless laptop client so that it does *NOT* automatically connect to
> any random access point, but that it requires you to manually select
> the desired connection.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558



 
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