Unable to get 98 machine on the network

I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in the
end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This machine
is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me that
the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a service pack.

I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully able
to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what I can
tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is "the
system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly different
than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you supplied
for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".

Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix the
installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see if
that doesn't fix your logon problems.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in the
> end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
> machine
> is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me
> that
> the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a service
> pack.
>
> I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully
> able
> to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what I
> can
> tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is "the
> system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
> different
> than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you supplied
> for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".

How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to get to the
internet?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix the
> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see if
> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in the
> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
> > machine
> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me
> > that
> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a service
> > pack.
> >
> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully
> > able
> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what I
> > can
> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is "the
> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
> > different
> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you supplied
> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".
>
>
>

"Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4964C037-D8C1-434E-8141-(E-Mail Removed)...
> How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to get to
> the
> internet?
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix the
>> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see if
>> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in
>> >the
>> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
>> > machine
>> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me
>> > that
>> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a
>> > service
>> > pack.
>> >
>> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully
>> > able
>> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what
>> > I
>> > can
>> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is
>> > "the
>> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
>> > different
>> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you
>> > supplied
>> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".
>>
>>
>>

you will have to download it on another machine that has an internet
connection and "walk it" to the problem machine ...you will need the updated
installer to continue ..

hth

Try this:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

John

Penny wrote:

> I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in the
> end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This machine
> is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me that
> the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a service pack.
>
> I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully able
> to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what I can
> tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is "the
> system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly different
> than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you supplied
> for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".

"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
|
|
|
| "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:4964C037-D8C1-434E-8141-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to get to
| > the
| > internet?
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| >
| >> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix
the
| >> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see
if
| >> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
| >>
| >> --
| >> Gary S. Terhune
| >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| >> www.grystmill.com
| >>
| >> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| >> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
| >> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but
in
| >> >the
| >> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
| >> > machine
| >> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells
me
| >> > that
| >> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a
| >> > service
| >> > pack.
| >> >
| >> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was
successfully
| >> > able
| >> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from
what
| >> > I
| >> > can
| >> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
| >> >
| >> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is
| >> > "the
| >> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
| >> > different
| >> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you
| >> > supplied
| >> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".
| >>
| >>
| >>
|
| you will have to download it on another machine that has an internet
| connection and "walk it" to the problem machine ...you will need the
updated
| installer to continue ..
|
| hth
|
|

As has been suggested, you will need to download to another computer and
transfer to the target computer.

InstMsiA - version - 2.0.2600.2

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows 95, 98, and Me -1.62 meg

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows NT 4.0 and 2000.

NOTE: there apparently were two downloads for the 2.0 installer .01 and .02
[from Microsoft], if problems develop or issues such as with Office or other
installations, check for the proper version needed and applicable KBs.

Another helpful related tool:
How to Download and Use the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...nkid%3d1396133

General Networking issues and information:
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
_______________

My bad. Wasn't being mentally diligent. Others have provided the answer(s).
Sorry.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4964C037-D8C1-434E-8141-(E-Mail Removed)...
> How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to get to
> the
> internet?
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix the
>> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see if
>> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but in
>> >the
>> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
>> > machine
>> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells me
>> > that
>> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a
>> > service
>> > pack.
>> >
>> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was successfully
>> > able
>> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from what
>> > I
>> > can
>> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is
>> > "the
>> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
>> > different
>> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you
>> > supplied
>> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".
>>
>>
>>

Thanks for the links. I tried going to windows updates from another machine,
but it wants to automatically detect the machine I'm on not the affected one.
I get bit by this a lot. How do you download updates for other computers?

"MEB" wrote:

>
> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> |
> |
> |
> | "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:4964C037-D8C1-434E-8141-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to get to
> | > the
> | > internet?
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | >
> | >> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should fix
> the
> | >> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed, see
> if
> | >> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Gary S. Terhune
> | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | >> www.grystmill.com
> | >>
> | >> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | >> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | >> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week, but
> in
> | >> >the
> | >> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x. This
> | >> > machine
> | >> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it tells
> me
> | >> > that
> | >> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a
> | >> > service
> | >> > pack.
> | >> >
> | >> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was
> successfully
> | >> > able
> | >> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from
> what
> | >> > I
> | >> > can
> | >> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
> | >> >
> | >> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get is
> | >> > "the
> | >> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
> | >> > different
> | >> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you
> | >> > supplied
> | >> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you access".
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> |
> | you will have to download it on another machine that has an internet
> | connection and "walk it" to the problem machine ...you will need the
> updated
> | installer to continue ..
> |
> | hth
> |
> |
>
> As has been suggested, you will need to download to another computer and
> transfer to the target computer.
>
> InstMsiA - version - 2.0.2600.2
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
> Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows 95, 98, and Me -1.62 meg
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
> Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows NT 4.0 and 2000.
>
> NOTE: there apparently were two downloads for the 2.0 installer .01 and .02
> [from Microsoft], if problems develop or issues such as with Office or other
> installations, check for the proper version needed and applicable KBs.
>
> Another helpful related tool:
> How to Download and Use the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...nkid%3d1396133
>
> General Networking issues and information:
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
> _______________
>
>
>

"Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A4F2BEB8-CF4E-4A6A-AAE3-(E-Mail Removed)...
| Thanks for the links. I tried going to windows updates from another
machine,
| but it wants to automatically detect the machine I'm on not the affected
one.
| I get bit by this a lot. How do you download updates for other
computers?

The links I provided, and I think John did, were from Microsoft Download,
NOT Windows Update. If you use the Update site, it will determine what OS
and installer [XP is 3.9 or something which will NOT work in 9X/ME/NT]. So
use the links provided..

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > | news:4964C037-D8C1-434E-8141-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > | > How can I get to windows updates if I can't get on the network to
get to
| > | > the
| > | > internet?
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | >
| > | >> Go to Windows Updates and get the machine up to date. That should
fix
| > the
| > | >> installer version issue. Once you've got the dsclient9x installed,
see
| > if
| > | >> that doesn't fix your logon problems.
| > | >>
| > | >> --
| > | >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | >> www.grystmill.com
| > | >>
| > | >> "Penny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > | >> news:CB8E8D46-BB6F-4D96-9E8D-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > | >> >I struggled with this with another windows 98 machine last week,
but
| > in
| > | >> >the
| > | >> > end was able to get it worked out by installing the dsclient9x.
This
| > | >> > machine
| > | >> > is a different story. When I try to install the dsclient9x it
tells
| > me
| > | >> > that
| > | >> > the version of the windows installer is too old and to install a
| > | >> > service
| > | >> > pack.
| > | >> >
| > | >> > I compared the properties of this machine to the one I was
| > successfully
| > | >> > able
| > | >> > to install on the other machine and they look the same to me from
| > what
| > | >> > I
| > | >> > can
| > | >> > tell, but I really don't know windows 98 too well.
| > | >> >
| > | >> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh the error I get
is
| > | >> > "the
| > | >> > system could not log you in, DC not available" Which is slightly
| > | >> > different
| > | >> > than what I was getting with the other machine "The password you
| > | >> > supplied
| > | >> > for the domain is incorrect or the logon server denied you
access".
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > |
| > | you will have to download it on another machine that has an internet
| > | connection and "walk it" to the problem machine ...you will need the
| > updated
| > | installer to continue ..
| > |
| > | hth
| > |
| > |
| >
| > As has been suggested, you will need to download to another computer
and
| > transfer to the target computer.
| >
| > InstMsiA - version - 2.0.2600.2
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
| > Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows 95, 98, and Me -1.62
meg
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
| > Windows Installer 2.0 Redistributable for Windows NT 4.0 and 2000.
| >
| > NOTE: there apparently were two downloads for the 2.0 installer .01 and
..02
| > [from Microsoft], if problems develop or issues such as with Office or
other
| > installations, check for the proper version needed and applicable KBs.
| >
| > Another helpful related tool:
| > How to Download and Use the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...nkid%3d1396133
| >
| > General Networking issues and information:
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
| > _______________
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
_______________

Sorry Penny, I should have added another potential way to get to files.

Once on the normal Windows Update site, you can [or should be able to] go
to the Catalog, choose a different OS and download files directly for that
OS.

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MEB
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