UK ADSL ISP with server side spam filtering?

Currently with Pipex. it's not the cheapest (£24 pcm) but it's been
hassle free for over 2 years.

I use a variety on email addresses with with 5 different domains, all
collected and sorted into folders by MS Outlook 2003. Spam is a major
problem - 100's of messages a week, and significant numbers not getting
picked up by Outlooks spam filter.

I've tried Thunderbird as a client but we use the Outlook calendar and
address book and both synch PDAs with it so it's not a simple switch.


I've got a Yahoo account with sever side spam filtering which seems to
work reliably - are there any UK ADSL Isps that offer this? I know
there are some drawbacks (ie lost mails) with this appoach but would
prefer my mail collection to be quicker than it is now. Failing that,
which client side outlook plugins should i consider?

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> I've got a Yahoo account with sever side spam filtering which seems to
> work reliably - are there any UK ADSL Isps that offer this? I know
> there are some drawbacks (ie lost mails) with this appoach but would
> prefer my mail collection to be quicker than it is now. Failing that,
> which client side outlook plugins should i consider?
>
Eclipse have Spamguard, which is user-configurable to work at different
levels of spam filtering. from obvious spam to whitelisting recipients.

Obviously that's only for email arriving in your Eclipse mailbox.

Client side filtering is all well and good but can sometimes take ages
as it needs a process to happen of querying blocklists and the like,
then processing mail. Spampal worked for me when I needed to use a
filter

http://www.spampal.org/

(donationware, free to use)

FR

On 9 Mar 2006 03:31:48 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>I've got a Yahoo account with sever side spam filtering which seems to
>work reliably - are there any UK ADSL Isps that offer this?

I use Demon and they use Brightmail. In my experience Brightmail
server side filtering reduced spam by over 90%, my client side
filtering gets the rest. I compared results for a couple of months, no
false positives.

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(E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Currently with Pipex. it's not the cheapest (£24 pcm) but it's been
> hassle free for over 2 years.

Me too!

> I use a variety on email addresses with with 5 different domains, all
> collected and sorted into folders by MS Outlook 2003. Spam is a major
> problem - 100's of messages a week, and significant numbers not getting
> picked up by Outlooks spam filter.

You might like to try spambayes

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

It takes a bit of training, but after a week of use I found it was
classifying my 300 Spams a day very well. (Quite a bit better than
spamassassin which I have also used.)

I use it under linux, but it works fine with windows too, and has an
outlook plugin.

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(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Currently with Pipex. it's not the cheapest (£24 pcm) but it's been
> hassle free for over 2 years.
>
> I use a variety on email addresses with with 5 different domains, all
> collected and sorted into folders by MS Outlook 2003. Spam is a major
> problem - 100's of messages a week, and significant numbers not getting
> picked up by Outlooks spam filter.
>
> I've tried Thunderbird as a client but we use the Outlook calendar and
> address book and both synch PDAs with it so it's not a simple switch.
>
>
> I've got a Yahoo account with sever side spam filtering which seems to
> work reliably - are there any UK ADSL Isps that offer this? I know
> there are some drawbacks (ie lost mails) with this appoach but would
> prefer my mail collection to be quicker than it is now.

There is a way round this - some server-side anti-spam [eg SpamAsassin] can
mark the headers of emails with X-Spam-*, or the subject with ***SPAM***
for you, for example, so you can filter the marked message into a /spam/
folder, and whitelist stuff you do want to read. Another piece of advice
for you is, buy your email and your internet access separately. For
example, get a domain with 1&1, and forward it to whatever your
ISP-of-the-month's email address is. That way, you can keep the same email
address for the rest of your life, and not fret about changing email
address every time.

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>Currently with Pipex. it's not the cheapest (£24 pcm) but it's been
>hassle free for over 2 years.
>
>I use a variety on email addresses with with 5 different domains, all
>collected and sorted into folders by MS Outlook 2003. Spam is a major
>problem - 100's of messages a week, and significant numbers not getting
>picked up by Outlooks spam filter.
>
>I've tried Thunderbird as a client but we use the Outlook calendar and
>address book and both synch PDAs with it so it's not a simple switch.
>
>
>I've got a Yahoo account with sever side spam filtering which seems to
>work reliably - are there any UK ADSL Isps that offer this? I know
>there are some drawbacks (ie lost mails) with this appoach but would
>prefer my mail collection to be quicker than it is now. Failing that,
>which client side outlook plugins should i consider?


I have found BTyahoo very good, presumably it is the same service that you
get from Yahoo now. All spam is put into a bulk folder which remains on
the server. I get about 25-30 a day into it and very rarely does a spam
get through to my PC. Maybe once a week or so I find the odd mail in the
bulk folder that should have got through.
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Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

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> I use Demon and they use Brightmail. In my experience Brightmail
> server side filtering reduced spam by over 90%, my client side
> filtering gets the rest. I compared results for a couple of months, no
> false positives.

Brightmail has a good rep and Demon are £4 pcm cheaper than pipex as
well so i'll give them a go. thanks

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:55:04 -0800, b33k34 wrote:

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> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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>> I use Demon and they use Brightmail. In my experience Brightmail server
>> side filtering reduced spam by over 90%, my client side filtering gets
>> the rest. I compared results for a couple of months, no false positives.
>
> Brightmail has a good rep and Demon are £4 pcm cheaper than pipex as well
> so i'll give them a go. thanks

To put it into context that's 48 quid a year or US$85. For a fraction
of that you could get a premium mail account with a specialist email
provider, and have your MX records for one or more domains pointed to it.
You then have a stable mail service and, are free to pick your ISP on
the basis of it's core product - bandwidth.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:37:41 UTC, Bob <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> To put it into context that's 48 quid a year or US$85. For a fraction
> of that you could get a premium mail account with a specialist email
> provider, and have your MX records for one or more domains pointed to it.
> You then have a stable mail service and, are free to pick your ISP on
> the basis of it's core product - bandwidth.

Or run your own mail server and have complete control.

(actually, picking the ISP on the bandwidth criterion is hardly worth
it...most cannot offer more then 8Mb/s).

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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:56 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:37:41 UTC, Bob <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> To put it into context that's 48 quid a year or US$85. For a fraction
>> of that you could get a premium mail account with a specialist email
>> provider, and have your MX records for one or more domains pointed to
>> it. You then have a stable mail service and, are free to pick your ISP
>> on the basis of it's core product - bandwidth.
>
> Or run your own mail server and have complete control.

That not appropriate for most people. And you will still need an external
smtp server to relay to domains that refuse to accept from residential IP
addresses, and probably a backup server too. It also means that you need
to limit your choice to ISPs that allow mailservers.


> (actually, picking the ISP on the bandwidth criterion is hardly worth
> it...most cannot offer more then 8Mb/s).

I wasn't thinking about speed specifically, I meant it in the sense: pick
your breakfast cereal for the cereal, and not on account of the plastic
spaceman.