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Dennis
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      05-28-2007, 05:26 PM
I have a Tyco Dual Band Wireless Access Point (Model 0-1591700-x) that
is giving me enormous problems.

Before I throw the thing against the wall and declare it a P.O.S. I
wanted to find some reviews to see if others have had similar
problems. But I cant find a damn thing on google... So who is Tyco?
Are they reputable? Anyone have experience with them or know where I
can find some reviews for this model?


Thanks in advance

 
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      05-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Dennis wrote:
> I have a Tyco Dual Band Wireless Access Point (Model 0-1591700-x) that
> is giving me enormous problems.
>
> Before I throw the thing against the wall and declare it a P.O.S. I
> wanted to find some reviews to see if others have had similar
> problems. But I cant find a damn thing on google... So who is Tyco?
> Are they reputable? Anyone have experience with them or know where I
> can find some reviews for this model?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>

Google shows Tyco info as here;
http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...datasheets.asp
Tyco is a large electronics company based in PA.
 
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      05-28-2007, 09:42 PM
> Google shows Tyco info as here;http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...datasheets.asp
> Tyco is a large electronics company based in PA.


Google search results:
"cisco router" 1,030,000 results
"linksys router" 906,000 results
"tyco router" 0 results

My point is: for a "large" company there is an amazing lack of
reference to their router(s) on the net, no links for firmware on
their own page, no customer reviews or feedback anywhere. I conclude
that this is the very first router they've ever made, and sadly all
the bugs have not been worked out. Can anyone confirm or deny this?










 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      05-28-2007, 09:45 PM
Dennis <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a Tyco Dual Band Wireless Access Point (Model 0-1591700-x) that
>is giving me enormous problems.


What problems?

>Before I throw the thing against the wall and declare it a P.O.S. I
>wanted to find some reviews to see if others have had similar
>problems. But I cant find a damn thing on google... So who is Tyco?
>Are they reputable? Anyone have experience with them or know where I
>can find some reviews for this model?


Tyco is the parent company of M/A-COM, which is a highly respected
manufactory of all manner of military and industrial wireless and 2
way radio contrivances.
<http://www.macom-wireless.com>
However, unless I missed something, they don't make anything with
2.4GHz or 5.8GHz 802.11a/b/g. They do 4.9GHz and 802.16(WiMax). From
experience with their new P25 radios, I would say that anything that
M/A-COM makes is quite superior and well worth using.

Tyco Intl is HUGE. 240,000 employees and $41 billion in global
revenue. It's possible the Tyco owns a different wireless
manufactory, but I couldn't find anything on their web pile.
<http://www.tyco.com>
<http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Our+Businesses/Electronics/?>
My guess(tm) is that Tyco may have relabelled the device to meet some
contract requirements. A photo might also be helpful.

Look on the serial number tag for the FCC ID number. Post it
including any punctuation marks. Dig through the FCC ID web site for
clues.


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      05-28-2007, 10:10 PM

> Tyco is the parent company of M/A-COM, which is a highly respected
> manufactory of all manner of military and industrial wireless and 2
> way radio contrivances.


Great info there, thanks Jeff!!! This is the model in question here:
http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...s_%20Point.pdf

Personally I'm having a hell of a time getting the thing to hold a
connection using a/g or b with any kind of encryption. I have two of
these Tyco models, a few wireless Dlink models, and a few Linksys
models, I'm CCNA & CWNA certified. I know my way around a wireless
router. I'm just getting a 'bad vibe' and alot of unneeded stress
from this Tyco. Before I waste any more time troubleshooting the thing
I wanted to find out if it's even worthy of the efforts.

 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      05-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Dennis <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>> Tyco is the parent company of M/A-COM, which is a highly respected
>> manufactory of all manner of military and industrial wireless and 2
>> way radio contrivances.

>
>Great info there, thanks Jeff!!! This is the model in question here:
>http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...s_%20Point.pdf


Mr Ralph27 found it first. I tried Google and got nothing with the
model number. I also tried various tricks to find the Tyco access
point with Google and couldn't. I also couldn't find the wireless
access point using the searches at TycoElectronics.com and from
Lan-Electronics.com. No firmware updates that I could find on the
support page since introduction in 2003. Seems like a very well
hidden product and an oddity mixed in with products that are mostly
media converters and managed network devices.

I note that Lan-Electronics is in the UK (see bottom of access point
data sheet) and you're in Canada.

>Personally I'm having a hell of a time getting the thing to hold a
>connection using a/g or b with any kind of encryption. I have two of
>these Tyco models, a few wireless Dlink models, and a few Linksys
>models, I'm CCNA & CWNA certified. I know my way around a wireless
>router. I'm just getting a 'bad vibe' and alot of unneeded stress
>from this Tyco. Before I waste any more time troubleshooting the thing
>I wanted to find out if it's even worthy of the efforts.


What's the FCC ID? I can tell quite a bit about the guts and OEM
source from the type certification report. I tried looking for "Tyco"
in the FCC Grantee Search and ended up with far to many groups to
search efficiently. Tyco, Amp, or Lan-Electronics probably didn't
make the device. It was made by some OEM and they stuck their name on
it. If you can find the OEM, there may be firmware updates (and more
clues) available.

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      05-29-2007, 11:09 AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Dennis <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>> Tyco is the parent company of M/A-COM, which is a highly respected
>>> manufactory of all manner of military and industrial wireless and 2
>>> way radio contrivances.

>> Great info there, thanks Jeff!!! This is the model in question here:
>> http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...s_%20Point.pdf

>
> Mr Ralph27 found it first. I tried Google and got nothing with the
> model number. I also tried various tricks to find the Tyco access
> point with Google and couldn't. I also couldn't find the wireless
> access point using the searches at TycoElectronics.com and from
> Lan-Electronics.com. No firmware updates that I could find on the
> support page since introduction in 2003. Seems like a very well
> hidden product and an oddity mixed in with products that are mostly
> media converters and managed network devices.
>
> I note that Lan-Electronics is in the UK (see bottom of access point
> data sheet) and you're in Canada.
>
>> Personally I'm having a hell of a time getting the thing to hold a
>> connection using a/g or b with any kind of encryption. I have two of
>> these Tyco models, a few wireless Dlink models, and a few Linksys
>> models, I'm CCNA & CWNA certified. I know my way around a wireless
>> router. I'm just getting a 'bad vibe' and alot of unneeded stress
>>from this Tyco. Before I waste any more time troubleshooting the thing
>> I wanted to find out if it's even worthy of the efforts.

>
> What's the FCC ID? I can tell quite a bit about the guts and OEM
> source from the type certification report. I tried looking for "Tyco"
> in the FCC Grantee Search and ended up with far to many groups to
> search efficiently. Tyco, Amp, or Lan-Electronics probably didn't
> make the device. It was made by some OEM and they stuck their name on
> it. If you can find the OEM, there may be firmware updates (and more
> clues) available.
>

The "0-1591700-x" is just a generic number with the "x" being replaced
for a number referring to the country of use, in the case of the US it
would be 1.
Search for "0-1591700-1" only gives a couple of hits but it is still
listed on page 217 of the Amp Netconnect catalogue. A "Customer Drawing"
is available from:-
http://www.ampnetconnect.com/documen...awing-RevB.tif

done in North Wales UK.

0-1591700-2
http://www.ampnetconnect.de/browse_c...50&product=358
just gives another link to the drawing done for Amp Incorporated..

Tyco in North Wales used to be Pinacl Communication Systems
check the Mac address of the AP to see if it starts 00-40-20
 
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      05-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Dennis wrote:
> I have a Tyco Dual Band Wireless Access Point (Model 0-1591700-x) that
> is giving me enormous problems.
>
> Before I throw the thing against the wall and declare it a P.O.S. I
> wanted to find some reviews to see if others have had similar
> problems. But I cant find a damn thing on google... So who is Tyco?
> Are they reputable? Anyone have experience with them or know where I
> can find some reviews for this model?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>


Tyco is a "megacorp" who owns a bunch of companies. They came to fame a
few years back as one of the posterboys for corporate excess. You may
remember the CEO Dennis Kozlowski and notable things such as the $6,000
shower curtains in his apartment and the $2,000,000 togo party on
Sardinia thrown for his wifes birthday all paid for by the stockholders.
 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      05-29-2007, 05:12 PM
kev <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>>> http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...s_%20Point.pdf


>http://www.ampnetconnect.com/documen...awing-RevB.tif


Well, that drawing and the original photo suggested that it may have
been type certified by AMP, a Tyco subsidiary. So, I dug back into
the FCC ID data dumpster, fished out the ID prefix for Amp (FUV), and
found that they had type certified a few wireless devices between 1996
thru 1998. That seems too early for a dual band access point with
SSID hiding, WPA, TLS, and 802.1x, but worth a look anyway. The
problem was that most of the data was missing. There were a few
photos remaining that looked very much like early Proxim products, but
nothing that looks like the Tyco product. Another dead end, unless
the FCC servers have crashed (again). I'll try again later.

>0-1591700-2
>http://www.ampnetconnect.de/browse_c...50&product=358
>just gives another link to the drawing done for Amp Incorporated..


Yep. No -1 for US in the list. At least they have a PDF drawing
instead of TIF.

>Tyco in North Wales used to be Pinacl Communication Systems
>check the Mac address of the AP to see if it starts 00-40-20


That will also help. I'm getting the feeling that there's not much
support for this product from Tyco, AMP, Pinacl, or whatever. Unless
the OEM can be found, methinks the lack of updates is going to be a
problem.

Thanks (I like mysteries and puzzles).

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      05-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> kev <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>>> http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...s_%20Point.pdf

>
>> http://www.ampnetconnect.com/documen...awing-RevB.tif

>
> Well, that drawing and the original photo suggested that it may have
> been type certified by AMP, a Tyco subsidiary. So, I dug back into
> the FCC ID data dumpster, fished out the ID prefix for Amp (FUV), and
> found that they had type certified a few wireless devices between 1996
> thru 1998. That seems too early for a dual band access point with
> SSID hiding, WPA, TLS, and 802.1x, but worth a look anyway. The
> problem was that most of the data was missing. There were a few
> photos remaining that looked very much like early Proxim products, but
> nothing that looks like the Tyco product. Another dead end, unless
> the FCC servers have crashed (again). I'll try again later.
>
>> 0-1591700-2
>> http://www.ampnetconnect.de/browse_c...50&product=358
>> just gives another link to the drawing done for Amp Incorporated..

>
> Yep. No -1 for US in the list. At least they have a PDF drawing
> instead of TIF.
>
>> Tyco in North Wales used to be Pinacl Communication Systems
>> check the Mac address of the AP to see if it starts 00-40-20

>
> That will also help. I'm getting the feeling that there's not much
> support for this product from Tyco, AMP, Pinacl, or whatever. Unless
> the OEM can be found, methinks the lack of updates is going to be a
> problem.



If one believes this is up to date then there are non outstanding since
manufacture.
http://www.tycoelectronics.com/produ...cs/support.asp


>
> Thanks (I like mysteries and puzzles).
>

I had a look at the manual and couldn't see any FCC ID on any of the
pictured labels however in one of the pictures of the main screen for
the AP it lists the MAC addresses as starting 00:02:6F which is SENAO
International Co. Taiwan
 
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