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IcemanMods
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      01-21-2006, 04:00 AM
Ok, here is the setup

My house
D link 624 108mb router
HP Laptop Internal 54G

His House
D link 524 54mb router
Sony Vaio Laptop

I want to bridge the two wireless routers together, so we can access
each others files etc,.Right now I have to dissconnect my own wireless
connection, then connect to his, then when finished recconect back to
mine. I want it to all work seamless without all that jazz, I also want
to have quick access to his drives, I would like to map network drives
to access his computer.

I dont know if this is possible with these two routers, It doesnt seem
feasible. My thoughts are get another wireless card then bridge them
together, thus retaining my wireless connection on primary card then
access his on the secondary card, I had a wireless card in my pcmcia
slot at one point and I think it disable my internal somehow. I could
always do a usb 2.0 wireless card, any ideas?

 
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William P.N. Smith
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      01-21-2006, 11:17 AM
"IcemanMods" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>D link 624 108mb router


>D link 524 54mb router


>I want to bridge the two wireless routers together, so we can access
>each others files etc


Dunno about D-Link, but what about setting up a VPN thru the internet
to tie them together?
 
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      01-21-2006, 03:30 PM
William P.N. Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "IcemanMods" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>D link 624 108mb router

>
>>D link 524 54mb router

>
>>I want to bridge the two wireless routers together, so we can access
>>each others files etc

>
> Dunno about D-Link, but what about setting up a VPN thru the internet
> to tie them together?
>


You don't want to do that. While possible, it wuold be extrememly slow
compared to a direct bridge.
 
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      01-22-2006, 01:34 AM
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>William P.N. Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in


>> Dunno about D-Link, but what about setting up a VPN thru the internet
>> to tie them together?


>You don't want to do that. While possible, it wuold be extrememly slow
>compared to a direct bridge.


OK, but you are going to need a real 2-port router to sit between two
client-mode APs, and program it to pass LAN traffic while letting each
one get WAN traffic from their separate broadband connections. The
APs are easy, but the router might be difficult or expensive.
 
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      01-22-2006, 02:09 AM
I agree on the cost of the 2 port router, that would be expensive, I am
not well versed on vpn's where is a good place on the net to read about
setting one up, I would realy like to do this rather than droppping
mine to connect to his.

 
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      01-22-2006, 02:29 AM
"IcemanMods" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>not well versed on vpn's where is a good place on the net to read about


You'll have to check the documentation on your two routers to see if
they support VPNs, and can set up a VPN between them. Client software
and a VPN endpoint is going to get realy ugly really fast.
 
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      01-22-2006, 03:51 PM
William P.N. Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>"IcemanMods" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>not well versed on vpn's where is a good place on the net to read about

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>You'll have to check the documentation on your two routers to see if
>they support VPNs, and can set up a VPN between them. Client software
>and a VPN endpoint is going to get realy ugly really fast.


Some IPSec VPN clients can be messy very fast. Others are really
simple. For example, Cisco's VPN client for Windoze 4.6 has a
"simple" mode. It's not too horrible to configure:
| http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/...6/ugwin/vc.pdf
Only 148 pages of instructions. Well, maybe a little closer to
horrible than what I recall when I was using it.

PPTP VPN's are trivial. The DD-WRT alternative firmware for the
WRT54G supports terminating a PPTP VPN in the router. The client can
be just a Windoze machine (any version) setup with Microsoft PPTP
client.
| http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art..._via_PPTP.html

You can also have the router initiate the connection, thus creating
one big (bi-directional) network out of the two endpoints by
installing the Linux PPTP client in the router:
| http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net
I haven't tried this one but I've been told that it works.

There are also some really cheap IPSec VPN router from Linksys and
Netgear, that will work. I use Sonicwall routers for VPN's, but
that's far more expensive.

One catch is that the speed of the VPN is limited by the outgoing
bandwidth of the DSL or cable connection. That's usually 384Kbit/sec,
which will make the VPN appear rather slothish. IPSec also has quite
a bit of overhead, which will slow things down even more. Worse, the
VPN encryption/decryption overhead in the router (if terminiated or
initiated in the router) will really slow down the processor in the
router. If you expect performance, a VPN is not the best answer.

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      01-23-2006, 07:50 AM
holy crap, now thats the kind of information I find useful, It is
exactly what I am looking for at least for the time being, its a place
to start

 
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      01-29-2006, 03:43 PM
Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> One catch is that the speed of the VPN is limited by the outgoing
> bandwidth of the DSL or cable connection. That's usually 384Kbit/sec,
> which will make the VPN appear rather slothish. IPSec also has quite
> a bit of overhead, which will slow things down even more. Worse, the
> VPN encryption/decryption overhead in the router (if terminiated or
> initiated in the router) will really slow down the processor in the
> router. If you expect performance, a VPN is not the best answer.


Which was my original point exactly.

 
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