two routers (linksys), two hubs, cable modem - networking?

I've been struggling with two routers I have with two hubs in between. I've
got it so the two computers on one hub/router and the 3 computers on another
hub/router can get to the internet using the one cable modem. By using the
series of uplink ports between all the routers and hubs.

Problem is, I can't see the two groups of computers in the network
neighborhood. I feel like I'm real close since all machines can get on the
internet and DHCP is even working as well as wireless with the wireless
router.

I don't have the luxury of connecting the two routers directly too each
other in this case, so I have the hubs uplinked to each other which both
then go to the routers and then the one router goes to the cable modem.


Is there a quick fix to allow the two groups/routers to see each other in
the windows network neighborhood? Or am I going to have to get into some
static or dynamic routing? I played with that a bit but would lose one
router's connection completely or had other problems.

So right now I have:

cable modem --> router A --> hub --> hub --> router B

router A is the gateway and router B is simply configured to have a static
IP and uses the IP of router A as the gateway.

router A: 192.168.1.1
router B: 192.168.1.2
both use subnet: 255.255.255.0


Anything I'm missing or something else I can apply to allow the two to allow
windows networking?

Thanks in advance!

In article <o1JFd.194960$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"news.kc.rr.com" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I've been struggling with two routers I have with two hubs in between. I've
>got it so the two computers on one hub/router and the 3 computers on another
>hub/router can get to the internet using the one cable modem. By using the
>series of uplink ports between all the routers and hubs.
>
>Problem is, I can't see the two groups of computers in the network
>neighborhood. I feel like I'm real close since all machines can get on the
>internet and DHCP is even working as well as wireless with the wireless
>router.
>
>I don't have the luxury of connecting the two routers directly too each
>other in this case, so I have the hubs uplinked to each other which both
>then go to the routers and then the one router goes to the cable modem.
>
>
>Is there a quick fix to allow the two groups/routers to see each other in
>the windows network neighborhood? Or am I going to have to get into some
>static or dynamic routing? I played with that a bit but would lose one
>router's connection completely or had other problems.
>
>So right now I have:
>
>cable modem --> router A --> hub --> hub --> router B
>
>router A is the gateway and router B is simply configured to have a static
>IP and uses the IP of router A as the gateway.
>
>router A: 192.168.1.1
>router B: 192.168.1.2
>both use subnet: 255.255.255.0
>
>
>Anything I'm missing or something else I can apply to allow the two to allow
>windows networking?

>Thanks in advance!

Use router B as a network switch only, bypassing its routing
capabilities:

1. Use only the LAN ports on router B. Don't connect anything to its
WAN (Internet) port.

2. On a computer connected to router B, access the router's built-in
web server, which is probably at http://192.168.1.2

3. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server.

4. Assign router B an IP address outside the scope of router A's DHCP
server. For example, if router A uses 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.100,
assign 192.168.1.101 to router B.

5. Reboot the computers that connect to router B. They'll get their
TCP/IP configuration from router A, just like all of the other
computers.
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"news.kc.rr.com" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news1JFd.194960$(E-Mail Removed)...
<snip>
> So right now I have:
>
> cable modem --> router A --> hub --> hub --> router B

Will such a configuration fall foul of any of the rules about
maximum/minimum distances, or number of nodes, between computers?

Chris

That was one of my worries. With two hubs in between. But they both get
high speed internet access, just no networking between the two groups.


"Chris Watts" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:evwiIoi#(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "news.kc.rr.com" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news1JFd.194960$(E-Mail Removed)...
> <snip>
> > So right now I have:
> >
> > cable modem --> router A --> hub --> hub --> router B
>
> Will such a configuration fall foul of any of the rules about
> maximum/minimum distances, or number of nodes, between computers?
>
> Chris
>
>

That's it! I knew I was close. Thank you sooo much!!


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <o1JFd.194960$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "news.kc.rr.com" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I've been struggling with two routers I have with two hubs in between.
I've
> >got it so the two computers on one hub/router and the 3 computers on
another
> >hub/router can get to the internet using the one cable modem. By using
the
> >series of uplink ports between all the routers and hubs.
> >
> >Problem is, I can't see the two groups of computers in the network
> >neighborhood. I feel like I'm real close since all machines can get on
the
> >internet and DHCP is even working as well as wireless with the wireless
> >router.
> >
> >I don't have the luxury of connecting the two routers directly too each
> >other in this case, so I have the hubs uplinked to each other which both
> >then go to the routers and then the one router goes to the cable modem.
> >
> >
> >Is there a quick fix to allow the two groups/routers to see each other in
> >the windows network neighborhood? Or am I going to have to get into some
> >static or dynamic routing? I played with that a bit but would lose one
> >router's connection completely or had other problems.
> >
> >So right now I have:
> >
> >cable modem --> router A --> hub --> hub --> router B
> >
> >router A is the gateway and router B is simply configured to have a
static
> >IP and uses the IP of router A as the gateway.
> >
> >router A: 192.168.1.1
> >router B: 192.168.1.2
> >both use subnet: 255.255.255.0
> >
> >
> >Anything I'm missing or something else I can apply to allow the two to
allow
> >windows networking?
>
> >Thanks in advance!
>
> Use router B as a network switch only, bypassing its routing
> capabilities:
>
> 1. Use only the LAN ports on router B. Don't connect anything to its
> WAN (Internet) port.
>
> 2. On a computer connected to router B, access the router's built-in
> web server, which is probably at http://192.168.1.2
>
> 3. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server.
>
> 4. Assign router B an IP address outside the scope of router A's DHCP
> server. For example, if router A uses 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.100,
> assign 192.168.1.101 to router B.
>
> 5. Reboot the computers that connect to router B. They'll get their
> TCP/IP configuration from router A, just like all of the other
> computers.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm