Two ADSL routers on one phone line???

Can anyone help me solve this conundrum?

I have a single phone line (with ADSL) running to my home, with a BT
socket and phone (via ADSL filter) in the kitchen. The same line has an
extension running to my home office in a shed at the end of the garden,
where a phone and a Belkin ADSL wireless router are connected.

Unfortunately the house and the shed are too far apart for the Wifi
network to extend between the two, but sometimes my wife wants to go
online in the kitchen when I'm online in my home office.

Does anyone have an idea if/how I can either:
- extend the wifi network?
- or connect a second ADSL wireless router in the kitchen to create a
second Wifi network within the house using the one ADSL line.

Any help gratefully received.

"confabulator" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can anyone help me solve this conundrum?
>
> I have a single phone line (with ADSL) running to my
> home, with a BT socket and phone (via ADSL filter) in the
> kitchen. The same line has an extension running to my
> home office in a shed at the end of the garden, where a
> phone and a Belkin ADSL wireless router are connected.
>
> Unfortunately the house and the shed are too far apart
> for the Wifi network to extend between the two, but
> sometimes my wife wants to go online in the kitchen when
> I'm online in my home office.
>
> Does anyone have an idea if/how I can either:
> - extend the wifi network?
> - or connect a second ADSL wireless router in the kitchen
> to create a second Wifi network within the house using
> the one ADSL line.
>
> Any help gratefully received.

What sort of distance is involved..? Too far to run an Ethernet cable..?

Ivor

Unfortunately it's not possible - or at least not easily. The phone
line and mains pass through an armoured cable carrier buried 6ft
beneath the garden. I don't really want to dig it up and there's no
more room in the cable carrier.

Incidentally, the distance is about 50 metres.

On 19-Jan-2006, "confabulator" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Can anyone help me solve this conundrum?
>
> I have a single phone line (with ADSL) running to my home, with a BT
> socket and phone (via ADSL filter) in the kitchen. The same line has an
> extension running to my home office in a shed at the end of the garden,
> where a phone and a Belkin ADSL wireless router are connected.
>
> Unfortunately the house and the shed are too far apart for the Wifi
> network to extend between the two, but sometimes my wife wants to go
> online in the kitchen when I'm online in my home office.
>
> Does anyone have an idea if/how I can either:
> - extend the wifi network?
> - or connect a second ADSL wireless router in the kitchen to create a
> second Wifi network within the house using the one ADSL line.
>
> Any help gratefully received.

You could extend your WiFi network by using a directional antenna and a
receiver at the other end.
There's probably several suppliers, but I know that D-Link supply
directional antennas
http://www.dlink.co.uk/?go=jN7uAYLx/...HhLUkXsOjdbYc=

Of course it might be worth checking if your existing WiFi hardware
manufacturer supplies directional antennas.

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Thanks for the suggestion - and it's something I'll look into.

But in the meantime, does anyone have an answer to my original
question: can I connect two ADSL wireless routers to one ADSL-enabled
phone line?

The reason for my question is that it might be an easier solution than
fiddling around with antennae etc?

Many thanks.

confabulator wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion - and it's something I'll look into.
>
> But in the meantime, does anyone have an answer to my original
> question: can I connect two ADSL wireless routers to one ADSL-enabled
> phone line?

You can have two ADSL modems/routers connected - but only one can be
switched on and active at a time.

confabulator wrote:

> Unfortunately it's not possible - or at least not easily. The phone
> line and mains pass through an armoured cable carrier buried 6ft
> beneath the garden. I don't really want to dig it up and there's no
> more room in the cable carrier.
>
> Incidentally, the distance is about 50 metres.

How about ethernet-over-mains [HPNA] kit?

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confabulator wrote:
|| Can anyone help me solve this conundrum?
||
|| I have a single phone line (with ADSL) running to my home, with a BT
|| socket and phone (via ADSL filter) in the kitchen. The same line has
|| an extension running to my home office in a shed at the end of the
|| garden, where a phone and a Belkin ADSL wireless router are
|| connected.
||
|| Unfortunately the house and the shed are too far apart for the Wifi
|| network to extend between the two, but sometimes my wife wants to go
|| online in the kitchen when I'm online in my home office.
||
|| Does anyone have an idea if/how I can either:
|| - extend the wifi network?
|| - or connect a second ADSL wireless router in the kitchen to create a
|| second Wifi network within the house using the one ADSL line.
||
|| Any help gratefully received.

Could you use the phone cable to pull some CAT5 cable through?

At a push you could possibly use it for networking & phone.(4 cores for
data, 2 for phone) Then you could put your router in the kitchen.

alexd wrote:

> How about ethernet-over-mains [HPNA] kit?

Quite a neat solution for that situation. Last time I looked at
the Solwise(.co.uk) site, they had 1 or 2 suitable ADSL routers.

On 19 Jan 2006 09:50:19 -0800,it is alleged that "confabulator"
<(E-Mail Removed)> spake thusly in uk.telecom.broadband:

>Thanks for the suggestion - and it's something I'll look into.
>
>But in the meantime, does anyone have an answer to my original
>question: can I connect two ADSL wireless routers to one ADSL-enabled
>phone line?
>
>The reason for my question is that it might be an easier solution than
>fiddling around with antennae etc?
>
>Many thanks.

You can connect them. But you don't want to, neither will work.

ADSL works point to point only, 1 modem at your end. The directional
antenna suggestion is the easiest. Other possible suggestions are
gigabit fibre, (It's small and may get round your no room situation)
or one of the 'ethernet over power' wiring thingies. They're fairly
slow by LAN terms, but then again so is WIFI, and it works for
internet access.

2 modems on one line only works for 2 standalone pcs where only one is
on at a time. (My SO has such an arrangement with her laptop and
desktop, but only because I haven't run cat5 yet)

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