Trouble With Win98 and Cat5e

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I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my computers can
not connect. Sometimes they can see each other but that is all. What
I am wondering is the following:

1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be Cat5e
or can Cat-5 work too?
2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any Network
Card work?

Thanks in advance


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Sounds as if you made a mistake in the wiring. Did you make your own
cables? What color guide did you use to punch down the jacks and
connectors?

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> I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my computers can
> not connect. Sometimes they can see each other but that is all. What
> I am wondering is the following:
>
> 1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be Cat5e
> or can Cat-5 work too?
> 2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
> 3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any Network
> Card work?
>
> Thanks in advance
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> I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my computers can
> not connect. Sometimes they can see each other but that is all. What
> I am wondering is the following:
>
> 1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be Cat5e
> or can Cat-5 work too?

Cat5 will work fine with 5e

> 2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?

Any should work (within its capabilities -- some are better than others)

> 3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any Network
> Card work?

Any should work

>
> Thanks in advance
>

I agree with the other responder. You almost certainly didn't honor
the twisted pairings, or untwisted too much when connecting to the
keystones, or pinched the cable someplace. Simple connectivity is
not enough for a reliable connection.

BTW, in what sense is the change "sudden." Did you "fix" something
that wasn't broken, by any chance?

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First off thank you for all the ideas. As for punch down I used a
"Leviton Intergrated Networkds" Cat 5e Jacks. I used the "A" punch
down colors for all computers. I have double checked the color scheme
several times and everything appears correct. I am still open to
suggestions.

Thanks a million

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> Sounds as if you made a mistake in the wiring. Did you make your
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> > I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my computers
> > can not connect. Sometimes they can see each other but that is
> > all. What I am wondering is the following:
> >
> > 1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be
> > Cat5e or can Cat-5 work too?
> > 2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
> > 3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any
> > Network Card work?
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> > Thanks in advance
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The Subject ® wrote:

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> First off thank you for all the ideas. As for punch down I used a
> "Leviton Intergrated Networkds" Cat 5e Jacks. I used the "A" punch
> down colors for all computers. I have double checked the color scheme
> several times and everything appears correct. I am still open to
> suggestions.
>

I've used those, and they should be fine. So you've ruled out the
most likely problem. When you checked them, I assume you confirmed
that only 1/2" +/- of cable was untwisted?

Do the status lights on the NICs and switches/hubs reveal any clues
when the problem occurs?

> Thanks a million
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>>Sounds as if you made a mistake in the wiring. Did you make your
>>own cables? What color guide did you use to punch down the jacks
>>and connectors?
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>>>I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my computers
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>>>all. What I am wondering is the following:
>>>
>>>1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be
>>>Cat5e or can Cat-5 work too?
>>>2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
>>>3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any
>>>Network Card work?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
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> I've used those, and they should be fine. So you've ruled out the
> most likely problem. When you checked them, I assume you confirmed
> that only 1/2" +/- of cable was untwisted?
>

Ok time for me to look like a fool ( I hope not). I am not sure
exactly what you mean. I took the end of the Cat 5e wire and
seperated each of the 8 wires from one another. I then inserted each
wire, based on the color code, into the socket. Am I missing
something?

I now feel like Homer Simpson.



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> > First off thank you for all the ideas. As for punch down I used a
> > "Leviton Intergrated Networkds" Cat 5e Jacks. I used the "A"
> > punch down colors for all computers. I have double checked the
> > color scheme several times and everything appears correct. I am
> > still open to suggestions.
> >
>
> I've used those, and they should be fine. So you've ruled out the
> most likely problem. When you checked them, I assume you confirmed
> that only 1/2" +/- of cable was untwisted?
>
> Do the status lights on the NICs and switches/hubs reveal any clues
> when the problem occurs?
>
> > Thanks a million
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> >>Sounds as if you made a mistake in the wiring. Did you make your
> >>own cables? What color guide did you use to punch down the
> >>jacks and connectors?
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> >>>I recently wired my home with Cat5e cables. Suddenly my
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> >>>that is all. What I am wondering is the following:
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> >>>1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be
> >>>Cat5e or can Cat-5 work too?
> >>>2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
> >>>3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any
> >>>Network Card work?
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> >>>Thanks in advance
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Did you use a crimping tool to make the final connections secure?

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> Ok time for me to look like a fool ( I hope not). I am not sure
> exactly what you mean. I took the end of the Cat 5e wire and
> seperated each of the 8 wires from one another. I then inserted each
> wire, based on the color code, into the socket. Am I missing
> something?
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> I now feel like Homer Simpson.

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Yes I did.

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> > Ok time for me to look like a fool ( I hope not). I am not sure
> > exactly what you mean. I took the end of the Cat 5e wire and
> > seperated each of the 8 wires from one another. I then inserted
> > each wire, based on the color code, into the socket. Am I
> > missing
> > something?
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> > I now feel like Homer Simpson.
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Thanks for the advice. To make things easier I went out and got a new
computer. Everything works great now (LOL).



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> > all. What I am wondering is the following:
> >
> > 1) When using Cat5e wiring, must ALL the patch cables also be
> > Cat5e or can Cat-5 work too?
>
> Cat5 will work fine with 5e
>
> > 2) Must I use a specific Router or will any work?
>
> Any should work (within its capabilities -- some are better than
> others)
>
> > 3) Must I change my network cards in my computers or will any
> > Network Card work?
>
> Any should work
>
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
>
> I agree with the other responder. You almost certainly didn't
> honor the twisted pairings, or untwisted too much when connecting
> to the keystones, or pinched the cable someplace. Simple
> connectivity is not enough for a reliable connection.
>
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> Thanks for the advice. To make things easier I went out and got a new
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