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scott
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      04-15-2004, 09:11 AM
i have a small network 3 pc's - 2 x xp and 1 x 98se. one
of the xp has adsl which is shared by other 2 via peer to
peer using rj45 and 6 port netgear hub. i used xp network
wizard to setup network. it takes 20 or more seconds to
see a file on the network which is annoying enough -
problem 1. i now wish to connect my xp laptop via the
same hub. the xp pc with internet connection sees the
laptop but cannot browse files (mydocs is shared)and the
other xp and 98se pc's cannot see the laptop at all. the
laptop can see the internet connected xp pc and see all
it's shared files and browse the internet but cannot see
the other 2 pc's. all pc's are set to share files and
printers and i have tried swapping rj45 cables. i have
uninstalled the laptop network adapter and re-installed
and run network wizard all to no avail. i read microsoft
support docs and set 'enable netbios over tcp/ip network'
on all pc's - but no good. please help - thsnks in
advance.

cheers scott aussie
 
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Jim
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      04-16-2004, 03:50 AM
Simple question, can you *manually* access shares across PCs?

For example, from the command line, try:

net use x: \\scott\\mydocs

... assuming "scott" is a remote machine name, and is sharing a folder as
"mydocs" ?

Jim


"scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1cd0601c422c9$9ad2be90$(E-Mail Removed)...
> i have a small network 3 pc's - 2 x xp and 1 x 98se. one
> of the xp has adsl which is shared by other 2 via peer to
> peer using rj45 and 6 port netgear hub. i used xp network
> wizard to setup network. it takes 20 or more seconds to
> see a file on the network which is annoying enough -
> problem 1. i now wish to connect my xp laptop via the
> same hub. the xp pc with internet connection sees the
> laptop but cannot browse files (mydocs is shared)and the
> other xp and 98se pc's cannot see the laptop at all. the
> laptop can see the internet connected xp pc and see all
> it's shared files and browse the internet but cannot see
> the other 2 pc's. all pc's are set to share files and
> printers and i have tried swapping rj45 cables. i have
> uninstalled the laptop network adapter and re-installed
> and run network wizard all to no avail. i read microsoft
> support docs and set 'enable netbios over tcp/ip network'
> on all pc's - but no good. please help - thsnks in
> advance.
>
> cheers scott aussie



 
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      04-16-2004, 09:53 AM
hi jim,

thanks for replying. no, tried manually accessing. since
first posting i have been experimenting on another similar
network. firewalls are probably biggest problem. i will
check each pc has a-virus turned off and no firewall prior
to any other adjustments - cannot try now till monday.
interestingly microsoft report that a mixed xp 98 network
can take up to 20 min for each pc to 'see' all other
pc's?????
i note that there are a lot of 'issues' re networking xp
and 98 mentioned on this newsgroup and that microsoft no
longer support netbios - i think my older 98 pc's have
netbios installed, so will now delete and try tcp/ip only.
thanks again and regards scott.

>-----Original Message-----
>Simple question, can you *manually* access shares across

PCs?
>
>For example, from the command line, try:
>
>net use x: \\scott\\mydocs
>
>... assuming "scott" is a remote machine name, and is

sharing a folder as
>"mydocs" ?
>
>Jim
>
>
>"scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:1cd0601c422c9$9ad2be90$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> i have a small network 3 pc's - 2 x xp and 1 x 98se.

one
>> of the xp has adsl which is shared by other 2 via peer

to
>> peer using rj45 and 6 port netgear hub. i used xp

network
>> wizard to setup network. it takes 20 or more seconds to
>> see a file on the network which is annoying enough -
>> problem 1. i now wish to connect my xp laptop via the
>> same hub. the xp pc with internet connection sees the
>> laptop but cannot browse files (mydocs is shared)and the
>> other xp and 98se pc's cannot see the laptop at all.

the
>> laptop can see the internet connected xp pc and see all
>> it's shared files and browse the internet but cannot see
>> the other 2 pc's. all pc's are set to share files and
>> printers and i have tried swapping rj45 cables. i have
>> uninstalled the laptop network adapter and re-installed
>> and run network wizard all to no avail. i read

microsoft
>> support docs and set 'enable netbios over tcp/ip

network'
>> on all pc's - but no good. please help - thsnks in
>> advance.
>>
>> cheers scott aussie

>
>
>.
>

 
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      04-16-2004, 06:57 PM
In article <1db3e01c42398$a0a16770$(E-Mail Removed)>,
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>hi jim,
>
>thanks for replying. no, tried manually accessing. since
>first posting i have been experimenting on another similar
>network. firewalls are probably biggest problem. i will
>check each pc has a-virus turned off and no firewall prior
>to any other adjustments - cannot try now till monday.
>interestingly microsoft report that a mixed xp 98 network
>can take up to 20 min for each pc to 'see' all other
>pc's?????
>i note that there are a lot of 'issues' re networking xp
>and 98 mentioned on this newsgroup and that microsoft no
>longer support netbios - i think my older 98 pc's have
>netbios installed, so will now delete and try tcp/ip only.
>thanks again and regards scott.


You're thinking of NetBEUI, which is a network protocol that's
available, but unsupported, in Windows XP. You can install NetBEUI
from the Windows XP CD-ROM, but Microsoft hasn't tested it and doesn't
give technical support on it.

You're on the right track by removing all protocols except TCP/IP.
Using more than one protocol can make a network unreliable, especially
when Windows XP is involved. I've written a web page about that:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
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