transparent proxy (virgin)

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:58:35 GMT and in article <%5JTc.226$Xu.138
@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, Mark Crowther said...
: "smee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:0RITc.123$(E-Mail Removed)...
: > If you have a list of proxy servers that you can use then go here to see
: how
: > to use them
: > http://www.chetnet.co.uk/articles/in...x_v2&id=32&c=5
: >
:
: thanks, but that's not what i meant. virgin has a transparent proxy which
: intercept all web traffic, so even if I explicitly set a proxy in my
: browser, it'll just be my proxy communicating with virgin's proxy (which in
: turn communicates with the web server at thesite.com). I need to establish
: a direct proxy-less connection between my computer and thesite.com
:
Surely you've answered your own question..? The only way to get past a
transparent proxy cache is to specify another proxy. I suggest you
switch ISPs to one that doesnt proxy all port 80 traffic.
--
chris

I see virgin are using a transparent web proxy.

I need to bypass it and surf 'direct'. Any idea how I might do this?
thanks

mark

If you have a list of proxy servers that you can use then go here to see how
to use them
http://www.chetnet.co.uk/articles/in...x_v2&id=32&c=5


"Mark Crowther" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0NITc.713$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I see virgin are using a transparent web proxy.
>
> I need to bypass it and surf 'direct'. Any idea how I might do this?
> thanks
>
> mark
>
>

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:08:56 GMT and in article <IfJTc.233$Xu.30
@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, Mark Crowther said...
: "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: > Surely you've answered your own question..? The only way to get past a
: > transparent proxy cache is to specify another proxy. I suggest you
: > switch ISPs to one that doesnt proxy all port 80 traffic.
: > --
: > chris
:
: maybe not. some more searching has revealed that some ppl have had luck with
: http tunnelling over SSL.

Well, good luck. Sounds too much like effort imo

--
chris

"smee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0RITc.123$(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you have a list of proxy servers that you can use then go here to see
how
> to use them
> http://www.chetnet.co.uk/articles/in...x_v2&id=32&c=5
>

thanks, but that's not what i meant. virgin has a transparent proxy which
intercept all web traffic, so even if I explicitly set a proxy in my
browser, it'll just be my proxy communicating with virgin's proxy (which in
turn communicates with the web server at thesite.com). I need to establish
a direct proxy-less connection between my computer and thesite.com

"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Surely you've answered your own question..? The only way to get past a
> transparent proxy cache is to specify another proxy. I suggest you
> switch ISPs to one that doesnt proxy all port 80 traffic.
> --
> chris

maybe not. some more searching has revealed that some ppl have had luck with
http tunnelling over SSL. I can't find any specifics but it might be
possible to get past the proxy after all.

Refreshing stale pages in the web cache

While a copy of a page is stored in a proxy cache, the original page could
be updated, and users would never see it, because the proxy will return the
stale copy to users. Even if a browser user clicks on Refresh or Reload, the
proxy will still return the stale version.

With MSIE for Windows, the fix is to use Ctrl-Refresh (hold down the Ctrl
key while clicking on Refresh) or Ctrl-F5, which causes the transparent
proxy to refresh its copy of the page from the original web server. However,
Ctrl-Refresh does not work with:
MSIE v5.5 unless it has been updated with Service Pack 1 or higher. MSIE
v5.5 (without the service pack) was the version of MSIE supplied with
Windows 2000 and Windows ME.
MSIE 5.01 and MSIE 5.01 SP1.

Google is your friend!

Dan

"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:08:56 GMT and in article <IfJTc.233$Xu.30
> @newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, Mark Crowther said...
> : "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : > Surely you've answered your own question..? The only way to get past
a
> : > transparent proxy cache is to specify another proxy. I suggest you
> : > switch ISPs to one that doesnt proxy all port 80 traffic.
> : > --
> : > chris
> :
> : maybe not. some more searching has revealed that some ppl have had luck
with
> : http tunnelling over SSL.
>
> Well, good luck. Sounds too much like effort imo
>
> --
> chris

On 15 Aug 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, "Mark Crowther" wrote:

>some ppl have had luck with http tunnelling over SSL.

I thought 'ppl' was an AOL affliction... ah well, live and learn, but
how much of a second or two does it save over typing the word people ?

>it might be possible to get past the proxy after all.

I've previously used such a method, but if you don't mind me asking,
what's the reason for needing to do this ? I know some cache servers
can be unduly sluggish, but tunnelling is usually a more complex method
to avoid it than some other means, and can be costly too... Peter M.

On 15 Aug 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, chris wrote:

>Sounds too much like effort

works well, once set up OK... but something I'd avoid if poss!

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:08:56 +0100, Mark Crowther wrote:

> "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Surely you've answered your own question..? The only way to get past a
>> transparent proxy cache is to specify another proxy. I suggest you
>> switch ISPs to one that doesnt proxy all port 80 traffic. -- chris
>
> maybe not. some more searching has revealed that some ppl have had luck
> with http tunnelling over SSL. I can't find any specifics but it might
> be possible to get past the proxy after all.

Yes, but all this lets you do is create a tunnel to a specific machine on
a non-proxing ISP (like Plus.net) which you then use as a router or proxy
to bypass your badly-chosen ISP. So you need access to another machine
on another ISP.

Eric Lee