Toshiba laptop with Netgear wireless card connects (?) but no network

Dear All,

I have a Toshiba 4090xcdt running 98se in which I have installed a
Netgear WG511 wireless PCMCIA card.

The card appears to connect to my wireless network - the card LED is
solid, the system tray icon is green and displays a connected tool tip
and my network information appears in the card's assistant BUT...

....IE does not get to the net or even my router's login page.

I have a desktop running wireless quite happily so I know the router is
OK.

I am in dialogue with Netgear support but their ideas are fruitless so
far and seem rather box ticking rather than diagnostic in approach. I
have disabled firewall and encryption, upgraded drivers for the card
and firmware in the router to no avail.
My feeling is that it is windows networking that is not realising the
card is there. Can anyone give me any pointers where I may look for
evidence of this or any other suggestions, please?

TIA,
Colin Smith

can you ping the local router from the laptop

On 11 Mar 2006 09:47:31 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>I have a Toshiba 4090xcdt running 98se in which I have installed a
>Netgear WG511 wireless PCMCIA card.
>
>The card appears to connect to my wireless network - the card LED is
>solid, the system tray icon is green and displays a connected tool tip
>and my network information appears in the card's assistant BUT...
>
>...IE does not get to the net or even my router's login page.
>
>I have a desktop running wireless quite happily so I know the router is
>OK.
>
>I am in dialogue with Netgear support but their ideas are fruitless so
>far and seem rather box ticking rather than diagnostic in approach. I
>have disabled firewall and encryption, upgraded drivers for the card
>and firmware in the router to no avail.
>My feeling is that it is windows networking that is not realising the
>card is there. Can anyone give me any pointers where I may look for
>evidence of this or any other suggestions, please?
>
>TIA,
>Colin Smith

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> My feeling is that it is windows networking that is not realising the
> card is there. Can anyone give me any pointers where I may look for
> evidence of this or any other suggestions, please?

Does the card show in Device Manager? Is is in the drop down list of
network adaptors you get when you run winipcfg?

tim

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> Dear All,
>
> I have a Toshiba 4090xcdt running 98se in which I have installed a
> Netgear WG511 wireless PCMCIA card.
>
> The card appears to connect to my wireless network - the card LED is
> solid, the system tray icon is green and displays a connected tool tip
> and my network information appears in the card's assistant BUT...
>
> ...IE does not get to the net or even my router's login page.
>


Have you told IE how to get to the 'net or at least to work out for itself
how to?
If you have added the card to a working system, IE may still be trying to
find the internet the way it did before you gave it wireless capability.

Al Reeve

Dear All,

further to your suggestions:

...(.)(.).. how do I ping the router?

tim yes, the card appears in device manager network adapters.
There is only one device reported if I run winipcfg which is a PPP
adapter, might this be the card?

Al Reeve The laptop first connected to the net via wired USB to my
ISP's cable modem, having got this going I then went wireless.
If IE is trying to find the internet the way it did before how do I
confirm this and more importantly correct it ?
I've had a look at the connection tab of IE properties and nothing is
filled in...
....but nothing is filled in on my desktop either and that works just
fine,

regards and thanks,
Colin Smith

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I have a Toshiba 4090xcdt running 98se in which I have installed a
> Netgear WG511 wireless PCMCIA card.
>
> The card appears to connect to my wireless network - the card LED is
> solid, the system tray icon is green and displays a connected tool tip
> and my network information appears in the card's assistant BUT...
>
> ...IE does not get to the net or even my router's login page.

In IE, goto Tools -> Internet Options -> Connections

Tell it to "NEVER DIAL A CONNECTION"

Goto LAN settings on same page, ensure "AUTOMATICALLY DETECT..." is *on* and
"PROXY" is *off*.

> I am in dialogue with Netgear support but their ideas are fruitless so
> far and seem rather box ticking rather than diagnostic in approach. I
> have disabled firewall and encryption, upgraded drivers for the card
> and firmware in the router to no avail.

Please don't slag off tech support until you've resolved the issue yourself.

> My feeling is that it is windows networking that is not realising the
> card is there. Can anyone give me any pointers where I may look for
> evidence of this or any other suggestions, please?

What's the current IP addresses of the Win98 box and the router?

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> Dear All,
>
> Al Reeve The laptop first connected to the net via wired USB to my
> ISP's cable modem, having got this going I then went wireless.
> If IE is trying to find the internet the way it did before how do I
> confirm this and more importantly correct it ?
> I've had a look at the connection tab of IE properties and nothing is
> filled in...
> ...but nothing is filled in on my desktop either and that works just
> fine,
>
OK, here I need a 98 guru to help as I have tried to stay away from W98 and
USB but - in tne networks folder you should have a USB network
adapter, it is this that IE is probably trying to connect to the outside
world from. Since it isn't there IE can't contact the outside world. I
can't tell you how to remove/ disable the settings, sorry.

Jump in here someone who can please.

Al Reeve

Dear nut,

oops, touched a nerve did I

anyway...
....the section on the tab with the never dial up box is greyed out.
LAN settings are as you suggest already.
Where do I look for the IP addresses, please?
The wireless assistant app. for the card has a box for this but it is
not filled in, I'm not sure whether this is for itself or the router. I
can get the IP address for the router from my desktop but this is not
what you mean?

regards and thanks,
Colin Smith

Dear All,

I found how to ping

First I did an ipconfig and this reported two ethernet adaptors but NO
(0.0.0.0) IP addresses.
Odd for two reasons:
There aren't any ethernet adaptors on this (98se) laptop and there is
no report of the wireless card.
I did the same thing on my working (XP) desktop and could see the
wireless adaptor and the ip address of the wireless router and it would
ping it OK,

Does this point to anything and what should be my next step, please?

regards,
Colin Smith

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I found how to ping
>
> First I did an ipconfig and this reported two ethernet adaptors but NO
> (0.0.0.0) IP addresses.
> Odd for two reasons:
> There aren't any ethernet adaptors on this (98se) laptop and there is
> no report of the wireless card.
> I did the same thing on my working (XP) desktop and could see the
> wireless adaptor and the ip address of the wireless router and it
> would ping it OK,
>
> Does this point to anything and what should be my next step, please?

If the card's installed correctly, the only thing i can think is that you'll
need to change to "windows family logon" or "Client for Microsoft Networks"
instead of "Windows logon".

Control Panel -> Network -> Primary Network logon from the dropdown menu.