Tiscali news problems

"Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:20100206131137.7a5f9c4b@bluemoon...
> > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:16:35 -0000
> > "Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> In other words, I get part-way through the process and the server
> >> drops the connection - though it may be an intermediate server rather
> >> than news.individual.net's server that is dropping.
> >>
> > I'd try a proper news client before blaming the network or server.
>
> Actually I tried "telnet news.individual.net 119" and "telnet
> news.tiscali.co.uk 119", to eliminate any transient problem with OE. The
> former sometimes gave me a login prompt whereas the latter never did at
time
> when OE had problems. This, taken with Graham U's reponse to the thread,
> makes me suspect that Tiscali are playing silly buggers.

Hi,

I have similar problems with Tiscali blocking NIN on 119 usually in the
evenings, (not that I am around much in the daytime to compare) but yes it
is Tiscali for definite. (Or Talk Talk as they are now known)

"GrahamU" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:16:35 -0000, "Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know if Tiscali broadband connections block all access to
news
> >servers at certain times of day?
>
>
> Yes but it seems to depend on network load rather than times. Having
> said that 6 to 10 PM (GMT) weekdays I am unlikely to get any messages
> but at other times all is fine. And they block ALL news servers at
> this time including their own!

Not quite correct.....
I would recommend you started using http://www.eternal-september.org/ for
newgroups. This news-server is configurable for port 443 which Tiscali
never blocks at any time. Better still its free.
I have been using it for a long time because of the Tiscali issue of
blocking port 119. Good luck.

"Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:20100206131137.7a5f9c4b@bluemoon...
> > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:16:35 -0000
> > "Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> In other words, I get part-way through the process and the server
> >> drops the connection - though it may be an intermediate server rather
> >> than news.individual.net's server that is dropping.
> >>
> > I'd try a proper news client before blaming the network or server.
>
> Actually I tried "telnet news.individual.net 119" and "telnet
> news.tiscali.co.uk 119", to eliminate any transient problem with OE. The
> former sometimes gave me a login prompt whereas the latter never did at
time
> when OE had problems. This, taken with Graham U's reponse to the thread,
> makes me suspect that Tiscali are playing silly buggers.

I would recommend you started using http://www.eternal-september.org/ for
newgroups.
This news-server is configurable for port 443 which Tiscali never blocks at
any time. Better still its free.
I have been using it for a long time because of the Tiscali issue of
blocking port 119.

Jeff Gaines explained :
> The OP might be better off using port 80 - see:
> http://news.individual.net/faq.php#1.13

I use 563, which works fine all the time.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

John Palmer submitted this idea :
> "Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:20100206131137.7a5f9c4b@bluemoon...
>>> On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:16:35 -0000
>>> "Mortimer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In other words, I get part-way through the process and the server
>>>> drops the connection - though it may be an intermediate server rather
>>>> than news.individual.net's server that is dropping.
>>>>
>>> I'd try a proper news client before blaming the network or server.
>>
>> Actually I tried "telnet news.individual.net 119" and "telnet
>> news.tiscali.co.uk 119", to eliminate any transient problem with OE. The
>> former sometimes gave me a login prompt whereas the latter never did at time
>> when OE had problems. This, taken with Graham U's reponse to the thread,
>> makes me suspect that Tiscali are playing silly buggers.
>
> I would recommend you started using http://www.eternal-september.org/ for
> newgroups.
> This news-server is configurable for port 443 which Tiscali never blocks at
> any time. Better still its free.
> I have been using it for a long time because of the Tiscali issue of
> blocking port 119.

Along with a newsreader which supports your doing that - I use Mesnews
which does.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Harry Bloomfield" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jeff Gaines explained :
>> The OP might be better off using port 80 - see:
>> http://news.individual.net/faq.php#1.13
>
> I use 563, which works fine all the time.

Even port 80 and port.individual.net fails to work at times. Somehow Tiscali
seem to be allowing HTTP and blocking news traffic on the same port.

I'll try http://www.eternal-september.org/ and port 443. Shame as I've just
paid for the news.individual.net account because my own ISP's news server,
news.plus.net is not accessible from Tiscali at any time of day or night (as
far as I can tell).

Mortimer wrote on 14/02/2010 :
> I'll try http://www.eternal-september.org/ and port 443. Shame as I've just
> paid for the news.individual.net account because my own ISP's news server,
> news.plus.net is not accessible from Tiscali at any time of day or night (as
> far as I can tell).

Tiscali closed down their news servers several months back, likely they
also closed the plus one down too. They could never really be relied
upon.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 14/02/2010 18:37, Mortimer wrote:
>
> "Harry Bloomfield" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed). uk...
>> Jeff Gaines explained :
>>> The OP might be better off using port 80 - see:
>>> http://news.individual.net/faq.php#1.13
>>
>> I use 563, which works fine all the time.
>
> Even port 80 and port.individual.net fails to work at times. Somehow
> Tiscali seem to be allowing HTTP and blocking news traffic on the same
> port.
>
> I'll try http://www.eternal-september.org/ and port 443. Shame as I've
> just paid for the news.individual.net account because my own ISP's news
> server, news.plus.net is not accessible from Tiscali at any time of day
> or night (as far as I can tell).

Does news.individual.net not provide NNTP over SSL (port 443) then?

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"Tony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Does news.individual.net not provide NNTP over SSL (port 443) then?
>

No

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On 15/02/2010 21:36, John Palmer wrote:
> "Tony"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> Does news.individual.net not provide NNTP over SSL (port 443) then?
>>
>
> No

How about over 563? Or do Tiscali 'filter' that one too?

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Tony Evans
Saving trees and wasting electrons since 1993
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books -> http://www.bookthing.co.uk/
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