Thinking of Sky - router Q.

I've just moved house, and awaiting Eclipse reconnecting my BB after
three weeks (wasn't all their fault, TalkTalk owned the line from the
previous occupiers, and wouldn't release it until they had to!). That's
meant a delay in getting my BB connected after getting my new number
activated.

Anyway, for various reasons I need to cut my outgoings drammatically,
and have to consider the Sky bundle, on a like for like basis I can cut
my comms costs by over £30 a month. As much as I would like to go for
reputation, I simply can't afford to any more, and may have to suffer
the consquences regardless.

I see they have problems with Mail, but then so did Eclipse for ages,
which is why I now just use Google accounts, and I use
news.individual.net for usenet.

The only thing that I'm not sure of is the router. I see they supply
their own wireless box. However, I already have a hard wired network
installed here, and would prefer not to use wireless at all - for one
thing, I do transfer files large enough to need the faster speed of
ethernet.

Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
I bridge to my own router?

Cheers.

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> The only thing that I'm not sure of is the router. I see they supply
> their own wireless box. However, I already have a hard wired network
> installed here, and would prefer not to use wireless at all - for one
> thing, I do transfer files large enough to need the faster speed of
> ethernet.

The rebadged Netgear router also has four ethernet ports - you're not
forced to use wireless at all, and can disable the wireless networking
completely with a single tickbox under "wireless settings"

> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
> I bridge to my own router?

You can retrieve the username and password from the Sky router using a
small util here:

http://dg834gt.mognuts.com/NetgearRouterUtility.html

....the T&Cs say you're supposed to use their hardware, but others have
reported being able to use their own just fine.

Colin Wilson <(E-Mail Removed) o.uk>
wrote:

> > The only thing that I'm not sure of is the router. I see they supply
> > their own wireless box. However, I already have a hard wired network
> > installed here, and would prefer not to use wireless at all - for one
> > thing, I do transfer files large enough to need the faster speed of
> > ethernet.
>
> The rebadged Netgear router also has four ethernet ports - you're not
> forced to use wireless at all, and can disable the wireless networking
> completely with a single tickbox under "wireless settings"

Righto, cheers. If it has the four ethernet ports, then I may well just
use it anyway.

> > Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
> > their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
> > I bridge to my own router?
>
> You can retrieve the username and password from the Sky router using a
> small util here:
>
> http://dg834gt.mognuts.com/NetgearRouterUtility.html

Ta.

> ...the T&Cs say you're supposed to use their hardware, but others have
> reported being able to use their own just fine.

OK, I wondered if that was the case. It is just possible that the
supplied router could be better than the Belkin one I already have then
- this one has good range, but useless stability.

Thanks for the info Colin.

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> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
> I bridge to my own router?

It's a netgear DG843M - 4 port switch built-in.
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Regards
Jon

"Jon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
>> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
>> I bridge to my own router?
>
> It's a netgear DG843M - 4 port switch built-in.

> Regards
> Jon

yes it a netgear but filled with crap sky firmware

Adam

"Andy Hewitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've just moved house, and awaiting Eclipse reconnecting my BB after
> three weeks (wasn't all their fault, TalkTalk owned the line from the
> previous occupiers, and wouldn't release it until they had to!). That's
> meant a delay in getting my BB connected after getting my new number
> activated.
>
> Anyway, for various reasons I need to cut my outgoings drammatically,
> and have to consider the Sky bundle, on a like for like basis I can cut
> my comms costs by over £30 a month. As much as I would like to go for
> reputation, I simply can't afford to any more, and may have to suffer
> the consquences regardless.
>
> I see they have problems with Mail, but then so did Eclipse for ages,
> which is why I now just use Google accounts, and I use
> news.individual.net for usenet.
>
> The only thing that I'm not sure of is the router. I see they supply
> their own wireless box. However, I already have a hard wired network
> installed here, and would prefer not to use wireless at all - for one
> thing, I do transfer files large enough to need the faster speed of
> ethernet.
>
> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
> I bridge to my own router?

The offical word on this is Yes, you do have to use supplied router, but you
can extract the username and password.

See this post:
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/techn...ky-router.html
or http://tinyurl.com/32k63z

Hope this helps.

dylan30 <dylan30@?Sharbour.me.uk> wrote:

> "Jon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) et...
> > (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> >> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
> >> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or could
> >> I bridge to my own router?
> >
> > It's a netgear DG843M - 4 port switch built-in.
>
> > Regards
> > Jon
>
> yes it a netgear but filled with crap sky firmware

As long as it all works when I plug it in, I don't care really.

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"Andy Hewitt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> dylan30 <dylan30@?Sharbour.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Jon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) et...
>> > (E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> >> Are there any problems with using my own setup, or do I *have* to use
>> >> their router? If so, does it have ethernet as well as wireless, or
>> >> could
>> >> I bridge to my own router?
>> >
>> > It's a netgear DG843M - 4 port switch built-in.
>>
>> > Regards
>> > Jon
>>
>> yes it a netgear but filled with crap sky firmware
>
> As long as it all works when I plug it in, I don't care really.
>

Mine works and its better than my old router so it was a bit of a bargain
when the router was included.
I just use the wired ports.

Andy Hewitt wrote:
> The only thing that I'm not sure of is the router. I see they supply
> their own wireless box. However, I already have a hard wired network
> installed here, and would prefer not to use wireless at all - for one
> thing, I do transfer files large enough to need the faster speed of
> Ethernet.

Wireless routers come also with hard-wired ports.


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dylan30 <dylan30@?sharbour.me.uk> wrote:

: yes it a netgear but filled with crap sky firmware

Actually crap NETGEAR firmware (which is just as good/bad as any other
DG834 firmware!) - Sky just get them to create a tailored version for them.