Thank you, Jeff Liebermann

Not just for all the help you've given me, but for all the advice you
post here. Your contributions to this group are invaluable, and every
so often, it needs to be publicly acknowledged. This is one of those
times.

Thank you for all your help.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

> Not just for all the help you've given me, but for all the advice you
> post here. Your contributions to this group are invaluable, and every
> so often, it needs to be publicly acknowledged. This is one of those
> times.
>
> Thank you for all your help.


Ditto from me. Though Jeff is not the only helpful person here, he is
quite prolific in his responses!

Ed

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 04:42:39 GMT, Ed
<Huckleberry_REMOVE_@bigvalley.net> wrote:

>> Not just for all the help you've given me, but for all the advice you
>> post here. Your contributions to this group are invaluable, and every
>> so often, it needs to be publicly acknowledged. This is one of those
>> times.
>>
>> Thank you for all your help.

> Ditto from me. Though Jeff is not the only helpful person here, he is
>quite prolific in his responses!
> Ed

Thanks, but quantity is not a great substitute for quality. I do make
mistakes.

I could use some help in getting people to supply the model numbers of
their existing hardware and descriptions of their operating system.
It's difficult to answer questions without these. I've tried
everything from satirical humiliation to polite hints. Nothing seems
to work. The result is usually some hate mail, which I often deserve.

The problem is common in all mailing lists, newsgroups, web logs, and
such, but particularly bad in alt.internet.wireless. If you answer
someones question, and they didn't supply enough details for a proper
answer, kindly inform them of the problem.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thanks, but quantity is not a great substitute for quality. I do make
>mistakes.
>
>I could use some help in getting people to supply the model numbers of
>their existing hardware and descriptions of their operating system.
>It's difficult to answer questions without these. I've tried
>everything from satirical humiliation to polite hints. Nothing seems
>to work. The result is usually some hate mail, which I often deserve.
>
>The problem is common in all mailing lists, newsgroups, web logs, and
>such, but particularly bad in alt.internet.wireless. If you answer
>someones question, and they didn't supply enough details for a proper
>answer, kindly inform them of the problem.

We have the same problem over on the recording studio groups and forums
that I frequent. Often, the poster asking the question is so new, he/she
doesn't know how to properly frame the question. Often the only
ppossible responses are, "What are you trying to do with it?", or, "It
depends.".

We get a lot of "what's the best mic for my voice?" Well, I don't know
what your voice sounds like. And you don't wanna spend more than $100,
but you want it to sound like this CD (which was recorded using a
$10,000 mic)?

As for me, I went to my Travel America truck stop a couple of weeks ago,
and got my Microsoft PCMCIA card and laptop up and running just fine,
reading emails and the newsgroups, thanks to a lot of people here.

I'm probably gonna spend a few bucks more per month and just use my
Samsung cell phone to connect my laptop to the Internet when I'm
travelling in the RV. Between that and using wi-fi (when available),
I'll probably be ok.


Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

>> Ditto from me. Though Jeff is not the only helpful person here, he
>> is quite prolific in his responses!
>> Ed


> Thanks, but quantity is not a great substitute for quality. I do make
> mistakes.

My use of the term "prolific" was in reference to the number of times
you respond to help queries, not to the length of your responces!


>
> I could use some help in getting people to supply the model numbers of
> their existing hardware and descriptions of their operating system.

I am guilty of that at times in my efforts to keep the amount of data
in my postings down to a reasonable size. I will consider the need for
specific info in future postings, though.


Ed

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:01:05 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 04:42:39 GMT, Ed
> <Huckleberry_REMOVE_@bigvalley.net> wrote:
>
>>> Not just for all the help you've given me, but for all the advice you
>>> post here. Your contributions to this group are invaluable, and every
>>> so often, it needs to be publicly acknowledged. This is one of those
>>> times.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your help.
>
>> Ditto from me. Though Jeff is not the only helpful person here, he is
>>quite prolific in his responses!
>> Ed
>
> Thanks, but <SLAP!>

shuddup, stop being so modest and take your praise like a man!

i'd also like to thank you again :-)

It appears that Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> shook an
Etch A Sketch before scribbling:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 04:42:39 GMT, Ed
> <Huckleberry_REMOVE_@bigvalley.net> wrote:
>
>>> Not just for all the help you've given me, but for all the advice
>>> you post here. Your contributions to this group are invaluable,
>>> and every so often, it needs to be publicly acknowledged. This is
>>> one of those times.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your help.
>
>> Ditto from me. Though Jeff is not the only helpful person here, he
>> is quite prolific in his responses!
>> Ed
>
> Thanks, but quantity is not a great substitute for quality. I do make
> mistakes.
>
> I could use some help in getting people to supply the model numbers of
> their existing hardware and descriptions of their operating system.
> It's difficult to answer questions without these. I've tried
> everything from satirical humiliation to polite hints. Nothing seems
> to work. The result is usually some hate mail, which I often deserve.

The *real* problem is that most people coming into the groups for the first
time never bother to take the time to read anything before posting their own
question. Often, they would probably find that they were not the first
person to have the same problem, and would find it already discussed. Even
if they didn't find their answer, they would very quickly find what
information is required to solve a problem, and be able to give that
information when asking their question.

What is needed is a standard FAQ mechanism that newsreader programs could
use to find a newsgroup FAQ and slap it in front of a person the first time
they subscribe to a group.

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