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tom
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      11-04-2003, 10:44 PM
OK I finally have my Linux machine up and running.

Now I want to telnet and ftp into it using my
Win98 machine. Is this possible?


 
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      11-05-2003, 01:15 AM
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:44:31 GMT, tom wrote:
> OK I finally have my Linux machine up and running.
>
> Now I want to telnet and ftp into it using my
> Win98 machine. Is this possible?


Yes.

======= standard telnet inlude follows: =============

Telnet and ftp are insecure, and are not loaded/enabled during normal installs.

login id and password is passed as clear text and can
be snatched with a packet sniffer off both ends of the connection.

Use ssh/sftp instead.
Be sure to get the lastest from your distribution vendor.

If using, windoze get Putty.
http://www.nonags.com/
http://www.tucows.com


But if you realy want to use it:
man xinetd
Be sure to add the only_from = telnet_source_pc_ip_here
to the /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file in the target pc.

man hosts.allow
man tcpd
man 5 hosts_access
Check the firewall

and if all else fails, there is a very
large Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) search engine found at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
key word(s) in the first box
*linux* in the Newsgroup, pick English

If you would like to see some comments on telnet
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
Xns93FD6FED9472jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24 in the message id box

and view complete thread

Alan Connor <(E-Mail Removed)> seemed to indicate it is safe
because he's never been compromised. Which kind of of contradicts how he
feels, because he wrote a script to break the connection if user does
not do a critical activity within 15 seconds of login.
 
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Brandon Keepers
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      11-05-2003, 01:23 AM
tom wrote:
> OK I finally have my Linux machine up and running.
>
> Now I want to telnet and ftp into it using my
> Win98 machine. Is this possible?
>
>


Better to use ssh. There's a windows client available that does ssh and
sftp. www.ssh.com -> look for the non-commercial version.

 
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Alan Connor
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      11-05-2003, 01:29 AM
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:44:31 GMT, tom <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>
> OK I finally have my Linux machine up and running.
>
> Now I want to telnet and ftp into it using my
> Win98 machine. Is this possible?
>
>


As far as I know, you just have to have an ftp server running on
the Linux box, and they have to be connected via ethernet,slip,plip,
or some such protocol.

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tom
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      11-05-2003, 03:34 PM
Both my computers are sitting behind a Linksys switch
so security is not a problem yet. Although I hope it
will be later on but I am a ways from that point.

I know have two dual boot computers on a network.

I can ping the linux computer when both are in linux.

I can't ping the linux computer from the windows box.
Why is that?

Also I dont see telnet on Win98, but there is hyperterminal which seems to
me should do the same
I want. Although I am not quite sure how.


 
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Lew Pitcher
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      11-05-2003, 04:01 PM
tom wrote:

> Both my computers are sitting behind a Linksys switch
> so security is not a problem yet. Although I hope it
> will be later on but I am a ways from that point.
>
> I know have two dual boot computers on a network.
>
> I can ping the linux computer when both are in linux.
>
> I can't ping the linux computer from the windows box.
> Why is that?


I suppose it's because your MSWindows installation isn't configured
correctly. However, it's impossible to know because you haven't included
/any/ details at all. It could be anything from a loose cable to an
incorrect driver to an improper installation; we can't tell.

FWIW, MSWindows problems are rarely topical in the comp.os.LINUX.networking
newsgroup, and it sounds like your problem is isolated to your MSWindows
setup, and not to the setup of the Linux boot or your other (Linux) system.
You /might/ get better answers if you asked your questions in one of the
comp.os.ms-windows.* newsgroups.

> Also I dont see telnet on Win98, but there is hyperterminal which seems to
> me should do the same


IIRC, hyperterminal doesn't 'do' telnet. Hyperterminal (at least on /my/
Win98SE box) is a serial terminal only. Perhaps you have a different
hyperterminal than I have.

However, Win98 comes with a telnet client called (believe it or not)
TELNET.EXE. If you don't have TELNET.EXE then chances are that you haven't
correctly installed the TCP/IP support on your Windows box.

> I want. Although I am not quite sure how.


Details, man. We need details.

Show us
1) the results of ifconfig(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
MSWindows box
2) the results of route(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
MSWindows box
3) the results of ifconfig(8) from the other Linux box
4) the results of route(8) from the other Linux box
5) the results of IPCONFIG.EXE from your MSWindows box (or alternatly, the
results from WINIPCFG.EXE on your MSWindowx box)

Describe to us how you configured each system, and how you tested the
connectivity, both in Linux and in MSWindows.


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Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's)

 
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tom
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      11-05-2003, 05:03 PM

"Lew Pitcher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b2aqb.4743$(E-Mail Removed).. .
> tom wrote:
>
> > Both my computers are sitting behind a Linksys switch
> > so security is not a problem yet. Although I hope it
> > will be later on but I am a ways from that point.
> >
> > I know have two dual boot computers on a network.
> >
> > I can ping the linux computer when both are in linux.
> >
> > I can't ping the linux computer from the windows box.
> > Why is that?

>
> I suppose it's because your MSWindows installation isn't configured
> correctly. However, it's impossible to know because you haven't included
> /any/ details at all. It could be anything from a loose cable to an
> incorrect driver to an improper installation; we can't tell.
>
> FWIW, MSWindows problems are rarely topical in the

comp.os.LINUX.networking
> newsgroup, and it sounds like your problem is isolated to your MSWindows
> setup, and not to the setup of the Linux boot or your other (Linux)

system.
> You /might/ get better answers if you asked your questions in one of the
> comp.os.ms-windows.* newsgroups.
>
> > Also I dont see telnet on Win98, but there is hyperterminal which seems

to
> > me should do the same

>
> IIRC, hyperterminal doesn't 'do' telnet. Hyperterminal (at least on /my/
> Win98SE box) is a serial terminal only. Perhaps you have a different
> hyperterminal than I have.
>
> However, Win98 comes with a telnet client called (believe it or not)
> TELNET.EXE. If you don't have TELNET.EXE then chances are that you haven't
> correctly installed the TCP/IP support on your Windows box.
>
> > I want. Although I am not quite sure how.

>
> Details, man. We need details.
>
> Show us
> 1) the results of ifconfig(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
> MSWindows box
> 2) the results of route(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
> MSWindows box
> 3) the results of ifconfig(8) from the other Linux box
> 4) the results of route(8) from the other Linux box
> 5) the results of IPCONFIG.EXE from your MSWindows box (or alternatly, the
> results from WINIPCFG.EXE on your MSWindowx box)
>
> Describe to us how you configured each system, and how you tested the
> connectivity, both in Linux and in MSWindows.
>
>
> --
> Lew Pitcher, IT Consultant, Application Architecture
> Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group
>
> (Opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's)
>


1) the win98/linux box is basically not configured. I just
run ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.x
on it to get it running in linux. dhcpd to get the internet
from the switch.

2) same as above

3) and 4) win95/linux computer. I configured this computer a long time ago
and have not used it in years.
but route and ifconfig both give normal results as far
as I can tell. Until I get the network working better
this is hard to show. I cant transfer files.

5) I cant figure out how to post the results from
ipconfig. Windows wont let me paste from dos.
But I see nothing unusual here.

But something new has come up. If both computers
are running linux. If I telnet from one computer to
the other, I get the log in screen. But then when I login
with my password, it complains that password is not
correct. What is this all about?


 
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      11-09-2003, 04:23 AM
tom wrote:
> "Lew Pitcher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:b2aqb.4743$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>
>>tom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Both my computers are sitting behind a Linksys switch
>>>so security is not a problem yet. Although I hope it
>>>will be later on but I am a ways from that point.
>>>
>>>I know have two dual boot computers on a network.
>>>
>>>I can ping the linux computer when both are in linux.
>>>
>>>I can't ping the linux computer from the windows box.
>>>Why is that?

[snip]
>>Show us
>>1) the results of ifconfig(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
>> MSWindows box
>>2) the results of route(8) from the working Linux boot on your broken
>> MSWindows box
>>3) the results of ifconfig(8) from the other Linux box
>>4) the results of route(8) from the other Linux box
>>5) the results of IPCONFIG.EXE from your MSWindows box (or alternatly, the
>> results from WINIPCFG.EXE on your MSWindowx box)
>>
>>Describe to us how you configured each system, and how you tested the
>>connectivity, both in Linux and in MSWindows.

> 1) the win98/linux box is basically not configured. I just
> run ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.x
> on it to get it running in linux. dhcpd to get the internet
> from the switch.


Once you've run ifconfig eth0 xx.xx.xx.xx or dhcpcd, your eth0 should be
configured. Show us that configuration by posting the results of
'/sbin/ifconfig eth0'. That will give us an example of a working config to
go on.

> 2) same as above


Same deal. Show us the route that IP traffic takes to get to your MSWindows
box through running the 'route' command. I've helped fix broken networks
where the route from device B to device A was broken, but the route fron
device A to device B was not.

> 3) and 4) win95/linux computer. I configured this computer a long time ago
> and have not used it in years.
> but route and ifconfig both give normal results as far
> as I can tell. Until I get the network working better
> this is hard to show. I cant transfer files.


"Normal results" meaning what, exactly.

In order to find out what's broken, we need to know what works. You haven't
given us the details yet, so we can't diagnose anything for you.

> 5) I cant figure out how to post the results from
> ipconfig. Windows wont let me paste from dos.
> But I see nothing unusual here.


We don't either, mostly because we can't see /anything/.

> But something new has come up. If both computers
> are running linux. If I telnet from one computer to
> the other, I get the log in screen. But then when I login
> with my password, it complains that password is not
> correct. What is this all about?


From your description, you aren't entering the correct password for the
user you are trying to log in as.
If we had more details we might be able to give you a better answer. (Gee,
I'm repeating myself here.)

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Look, do you want help, or do you just want to complain?
If you want to complain, tell us (me), and we (I) will just ignore your posts.
However, if you want help, you're going to have to answer some questions.

Think of it this way: Your daughter is sick; she has a nasty cough, a fever
of 103 degrees F, and diarrhea. She can't keep food down, and is taking only
a little liquids. She's one sick girl, and you call the doctor.
You: "Doctor, my little girl doesn't feel well. What's wrong with her and
what can we do to make her better?"
Dr.: "Sorry, but from what little information you've given me, I can't tell
what's wrong or what to do with her. Bring her into my office and I'll
examine her."
You: "Doctor, I've examined her, and I tell you that she's /sick/. What's
/wrong/ with her, and how do we cure it??"
Dr.: "Sorry, but I still can't make a diagnosis or recommend treatment with
the inadequate information I have. Please get your daughter to my office,
and we'll see what's wrong."

Get the point?

>



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