technical query

Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
some advice?

I am using Sky Broadband, and want to run Apache on my pc. I have done
this successfully in the past with a previous broadband provider, but
can't work out where I'm going wrong this time!

Sky assure me that they are not blocking any ports.

I have configured the netgear router to forward port 88 to the
internal ip of my laptop (192.168.0.2) - I can't use port 80 as the
netgear uses that itself. I have installed Apache and edited the conf
file to use port 88, and I have enabled port 88 for incoming
connections in my windows firewall.

I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
telling me a connection couldn't be made.

I have a feeling i'm missing something incredibly obvious, but would
be very grateful for any assistance!

Regards,

Mark

(E-Mail Removed) explained :
> Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
> some advice?
>
> I am using Sky Broadband, and want to run Apache on my pc. I have done
> this successfully in the past with a previous broadband provider, but
> can't work out where I'm going wrong this time!
>
> Sky assure me that they are not blocking any ports.
>
> I have configured the netgear router to forward port 88 to the
> internal ip of my laptop (192.168.0.2) - I can't use port 80 as the
> netgear uses that itself. I have installed Apache and edited the conf
> file to use port 88, and I have enabled port 88 for incoming
> connections in my windows firewall.
>
> I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
> address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
> external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
> telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>
> I have a feeling i'm missing something incredibly obvious, but would
> be very grateful for any assistance!

With this router, it seems to be a two stage process, opening up a
non-standard port.

First of all, you need to go to services & make sure there is an
appropriate service available for your application. Then you need to go
to the firewall rules & add an ibound rule, pointing to the service you
set up previously.

FWIW, I use Apache & have no probs.

"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
> some advice?
>
> I am using Sky Broadband, and want to run Apache on my pc. I have done
> this successfully in the past with a previous broadband provider, but
> can't work out where I'm going wrong this time!
>
> Sky assure me that they are not blocking any ports.
>
> I have configured the netgear router to forward port 88 to the
> internal ip of my laptop (192.168.0.2) - I can't use port 80 as the
> netgear uses that itself. I have installed Apache and edited the conf
> file to use port 88, and I have enabled port 88 for incoming
> connections in my windows firewall.
>
> I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
> address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
> external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
> telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>
> I have a feeling i'm missing something incredibly obvious, but would
> be very grateful for any assistance!
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>

Most NAT routers won't allow you to connect from one internal host to
another using the external IP address. ( NAT Loopback ).

You need to try it from an actual external IP address.

PS: is the router really using port 80 on the external IP?
You can log on to it's web admin page from the Internet?
I'd not want that!
Are you 100% certain about that?

I'll bet you can forward port 80!

--
Ron

"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
> some advice?
>
> I am using Sky Broadband, and want to run Apache on my pc. I have done
> this successfully in the past with a previous broadband provider, but
> can't work out where I'm going wrong this time!
>
> Sky assure me that they are not blocking any ports.
>
> I have configured the netgear router to forward port 88 to the
> internal ip of my laptop (192.168.0.2) - I can't use port 80 as the
> netgear uses that itself. I have installed Apache and edited the conf
> file to use port 88, and I have enabled port 88 for incoming
> connections in my windows firewall.
>
> I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
> address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
> external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
> telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>
> I have a feeling i'm missing something incredibly obvious, but would
> be very grateful for any assistance!
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark

You can use port 80, what is the problem? I think you are getting confused
with LAN and WAN here.

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(E-Mail Removed) wrote on :
>> Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
>> some advice?
>>
>> I am using Sky Broadband, and want to run Apache on my pc. I have
>> done this successfully in the past with a previous broadband
>> provider, but can't work out where I'm going wrong this time!
>>
>> Sky assure me that they are not blocking any ports.
>>
>> I have configured the netgear router to forward port 88 to the
>> internal ip of my laptop (192.168.0.2) - I can't use port 80 as the
>> netgear uses that itself. I have installed Apache and edited the conf
>> file to use port 88, and I have enabled port 88 for incoming
>> connections in my windows firewall.
>>
>> I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
>> address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
>> external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
>> telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>>
>> I have a feeling i'm missing something incredibly obvious, but would
>> be very grateful for any assistance!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark


You can use 80 with out any problems- you will not see site becouse of
loopback- edit hosts file on your windows machine to point to your site
,this will get you around the loopback problem.

192.168.0.2 external ip

Chris
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"Joker7" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> You can use 80 with out any problems- you will not see site becouse of
> loopback- edit hosts file on your windows machine to point to your site
> ,this will get you around the loopback problem.
>
> 192.168.0.2 external ip
>
> Chris
> --
> Cheap As Chips Broadband http://yeah.kick-butt.co.uk
> Superb hosting & domain name deals http://host.kick-butt.co.uk


Mark, which Netgear router are you using and which firmware version? I ask
because the loopback issue has been fixed on the DG834G in the latest
firmware version.

On 18 Mar 2007 05:04:39 -0700, "(E-Mail Removed)"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
>some advice?

>I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
>address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
>external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
>telling me a connection couldn't be made.

When using the external IP, you want Apache to be listening on port 80
and not 88 (because you're forwarding port 88 from the outside to
local IP 80).

I think!
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:58:48 +0000, David Quinton
<(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>On 18 Mar 2007 05:04:39 -0700, "(E-Mail Removed)"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
>>some advice?
>
>>I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
>>address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
>>external ip (found from www.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
>>telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>
>When using the external IP, you want Apache to be listening on port 80
>and not 88 (because you're forwarding port 88 from the outside to
>local IP 80).
>
>I think!

Makes sense, but you can tell Apache to listen on any port AFAIAA. I'd
do it your way though.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

On Mar 19, 11:05 am, Lurch <use...@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:58:48 +0000, David Quinton
> <usenet_2005D_em...@REMOVETHISBITbizorg.co.uk> mused:
>
>
>
> >On 18 Mar 2007 05:04:39 -0700, "m...@keeptalking.co.uk"
> ><m...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
> >>some advice?
>
> >>I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
> >>address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
> >>external ip (found fromwww.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
> >>telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>
> >When using the external IP, you want Apache to be listening on port 80
> >and not 88 (because you're forwarding port 88 from the outside to
> >local IP 80).
>
> >I think!
>
> Makes sense, but you can tell Apache to listen on any port AFAIAA. I'd
> do it your way though.
> --
> Regards,
> Stuart.

Thanks to everyone for your very helpful replies! Problem now solved -
as people here suggested, its the loopback causing the problem!

Cheers everyone!
Mark

It happens that (E-Mail Removed) formulated :
> On Mar 19, 11:05 am, Lurch <use...@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:58:48 +0000, David Quinton
>> <usenet_2005D_em...@REMOVETHISBITbizorg.co.uk> mused:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2007 05:04:39 -0700, "m...@keeptalking.co.uk"
>>> <m...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Can some kind soul help me or point me in the best direction to get
>>>> some advice?
>>
>>>> I can connect to the apache test page when i use the internal ip
>>>> address 192.168.0.2:88 with no problem, but when I try using the
>>>> external ip (found fromwww.whatismyip.com) the connection fails,
>>>> telling me a connection couldn't be made.
>>> When using the external IP, you want Apache to be listening on port 80
>>> and not 88 (because you're forwarding port 88 from the outside to
>>> local IP 80).
>>
>>> I think!
>>
>> Makes sense, but you can tell Apache to listen on any port AFAIAA. I'd
>> do it your way though.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Stuart.
>
> Thanks to everyone for your very helpful replies! Problem now solved -
> as people here suggested, its the loopback causing the problem!
>

That's odd. I can connect to it now, however, before you fixed it I
couldn't - perhaps you'd taken it off line when I looked.

How're you implementing the SMS gateway?