TCP connections

Using the command ipconfig, I can see my address, IP address, subnet mask, and
default gateway.

What confuses me is the fact that if I view the TCP/IP information
from control panel(win98se) - network - TCP/IP (properties) the IP, DNS,
gateway are not listed.

My question is should I list the details here as well, even
though things seem to work. In other words, is it good practice. It
might speed things up. what do you think

Sp

In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
(E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
>Using the command ipconfig, I can see my address, IP address, subnet mask, and
>default gateway.
>
>What confuses me is the fact that if I view the TCP/IP information
>from control panel(win98se) - network - TCP/IP (properties) the IP, DNS,
>gateway are not listed.
>
>My question is should I list the details here as well, even
>though things seem to work. In other words, is it good practice. It
>might speed things up. what do you think
>
>Sp

No, there's no need to list the TCP/IP details there. If your network
card is configured to obtain an IP address automatically, you can't
list the details there. Ipconfig (or Winipcfg) is the right tool to
see the settings.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
> (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
> >Using the command ipconfig, I can see my address, IP address, subnet mask, and
> >default gateway.
> >
> >What confuses me is the fact that if I view the TCP/IP information
> >from control panel(win98se) - network - TCP/IP (properties) the IP, DNS,
> >gateway are not listed.
> >
> >My question is should I list the details here as well, even
> >though things seem to work. In other words, is it good practice. It
> >might speed things up. what do you think
> >
> >Sp
>
> No, there's no need to list the TCP/IP details there. If your network
> card is configured to obtain an IP address automatically, you can't
> list the details there. Ipconfig (or Winipcfg) is the right tool to
> see the settings.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Thanks for responding.

Sorry about the delay in getting back, but my pc broke down.

I am new to the concepts in this group.

I am using a stand alone machine, and I connect to my isp through
dialup.

My questions is 'Is my ISP network my network, when I dialup. Or am I
not on a network'?

You metion in your post the 'netwrok card'. As I am on a stand alone
machine (NO LAN), do I have a network card?

Thanks

All the best

Sp.

>

In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
(E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
>> (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
>> >Using the command ipconfig, I can see my address, IP address, subnet mask, and
>> >default gateway.
>> >
>> >What confuses me is the fact that if I view the TCP/IP information
>> >from control panel(win98se) - network - TCP/IP (properties) the IP, DNS,
>> >gateway are not listed.
>> >
>> >My question is should I list the details here as well, even
>> >though things seem to work. In other words, is it good practice. It
>> >might speed things up. what do you think
>>
>> No, there's no need to list the TCP/IP details there. If your network
>> card is configured to obtain an IP address automatically, you can't
>> list the details there. Ipconfig (or Winipcfg) is the right tool to
>> see the settings.
>
>Thanks for responding.
>
>Sorry about the delay in getting back, but my pc broke down.
>
>I am new to the concepts in this group.
>
>I am using a stand alone machine, and I connect to my isp through
>dialup.
>
>My questions is 'Is my ISP network my network, when I dialup. Or am I
>not on a network'?
>
>You metion in your post the 'netwrok card'. As I am on a stand alone
>machine (NO LAN), do I have a network card?
>
>Thanks
>
>All the best
>
>Sp.

I'm glad to see that your PC and Internet connection are working
again.

The dial-up connection to your ISP is your network connection. When I
replied to your first message, I assumed that you had an Ethernet LAN.
Thanks for clearing that up by explaining that you have a dial-up
connection.

With a dial-up network, the "network card" is a bit of software, not
hardware. In Control Panel | Network, it's listed as "Dial-Up
Adapter". In Ipconfig, it's listed as "PPP Adapter".

Your ISP assigns the IP address, subnet mask, default gateway, etc,
when you connect.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

(E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed). com>...
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
> > (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
> > >Using the command ipconfig, I can see my address, IP address, subnet mask, and
> > >default gateway.
> > >
> > >What confuses me is the fact that if I view the TCP/IP information
> > >from control panel(win98se) - network - TCP/IP (properties) the IP, DNS,
> > >gateway are not listed.
> > >
> > >My question is should I list the details here as well, even
> > >though things seem to work. In other words, is it good practice. It
> > >might speed things up. what do you think
> > >
> > >Sp
> >
> > No, there's no need to list the TCP/IP details there. If your network
> > card is configured to obtain an IP address automatically, you can't
> > list the details there. Ipconfig (or Winipcfg) is the right tool to
> > see the settings.
> > --
> > Best Wishes,
> > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Thanks for responding.
>
> Sorry about the delay in getting back, but my pc broke down.
>
> I am new to the concepts in this group.
>
> I am using a stand alone machine, and I connect to my isp through
> dialup.
>
> My questions is 'Is my ISP network my network, when I dialup. Or am I
> not on a network'?
>
> You metion in your post the 'netwrok card'. As I am on a stand alone
> machine (NO LAN), do I have a network card?
>
> Thanks
>
> All the best
>
> Sp.
>
> >


Steve,

I have had to reply to your last message via my previous message
because your last response, for some reason, wont let me post a
follow-up??

Following on from your last reply.

Am I right in thinking that when I am connected to my ISP via dial-up
I form a node on their network. Presumably all other dialups are other
nodes. But presumably the ISP is the network, since I can't
communicate with the other nodes (as far as I know - I expect that its
possible somehow). Therefore they are not part of my network?

My next point is how do I access the Internet/Web. If I am connected
to the ISP, then the ISP must somehow be connected to the Internet. Do
they just have a connection to another network?

Thanks

Hope you notice this

All the best.

Sp.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
(E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
>Steve,
>
>I have had to reply to your last message via my previous message
>because your last response, for some reason, wont let me post a
>follow-up??
>
>Following on from your last reply.
>
>Am I right in thinking that when I am connected to my ISP via dial-up
>I form a node on their network. Presumably all other dialups are other
>nodes. But presumably the ISP is the network, since I can't
>communicate with the other nodes (as far as I know - I expect that its
>possible somehow). Therefore they are not part of my network?
>
>My next point is how do I access the Internet/Web. If I am connected
>to the ISP, then the ISP must somehow be connected to the Internet. Do
>they just have a connection to another network?
>
>Thanks
>
>Hope you notice this
>
>All the best.
>
>Sp.

When you connect to your dial-up ISP you're a node on their network,
and so are all of their other users.

In general, ISPs block their users from communicating with each other.
This is, unfortunately, a necessary precaution to prevent Internet
hackers from breaking into unprotected computers.

Once you connect to your ISP, you're on the Internet, through the ISPs
high-speed, high-capacity Internet connection. The ISP assigns your
computer (through its PPP adapter) a public IP address that uniquely
identifies it on the Internet.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
> (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
> >Steve,
> >
> >I have had to reply to your last message via my previous message
> >because your last response, for some reason, wont let me post a
> >follow-up??
> >
> >Following on from your last reply.
> >
> >Am I right in thinking that when I am connected to my ISP via dial-up
> >I form a node on their network. Presumably all other dialups are other
> >nodes. But presumably the ISP is the network, since I can't
> >communicate with the other nodes (as far as I know - I expect that its
> >possible somehow). Therefore they are not part of my network?
> >
> >My next point is how do I access the Internet/Web. If I am connected
> >to the ISP, then the ISP must somehow be connected to the Internet. Do
> >they just have a connection to another network?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Hope you notice this
> >
> >All the best.
> >
> >Sp.
>
> When you connect to your dial-up ISP you're a node on their network,
> and so are all of their other users.
>
> In general, ISPs block their users from communicating with each other.
> This is, unfortunately, a necessary precaution to prevent Internet
> hackers from breaking into unprotected computers.
>
> Once you connect to your ISP, you're on the Internet, through the ISPs
> high-speed, high-capacity Internet connection. The ISP assigns your
> computer (through its PPP adapter) a public IP address that uniquely
> identifies it on the Internet.


This is the bit I don't undertsand

The ISP's Internet connection connects it (the ISP) to where?

Best wishes

Sp.

"species8350" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
> > (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
> > >Steve,
> > >
> > >I have had to reply to your last message via my previous message
> > >because your last response, for some reason, wont let me post a
> > >follow-up??
> > >
> > >Following on from your last reply.
> > >
> > >Am I right in thinking that when I am connected to my ISP via dial-up
> > >I form a node on their network. Presumably all other dialups are other
> > >nodes. But presumably the ISP is the network, since I can't
> > >communicate with the other nodes (as far as I know - I expect that its
> > >possible somehow). Therefore they are not part of my network?
> > >
> > >My next point is how do I access the Internet/Web. If I am connected
> > >to the ISP, then the ISP must somehow be connected to the Internet. Do
> > >they just have a connection to another network?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Hope you notice this
> > >
> > >All the best.
> > >
> > >Sp.
> >
> > When you connect to your dial-up ISP you're a node on their network,
> > and so are all of their other users.
> >
> > In general, ISPs block their users from communicating with each other.
> > This is, unfortunately, a necessary precaution to prevent Internet
> > hackers from breaking into unprotected computers.
> >
> > Once you connect to your ISP, you're on the Internet, through the ISPs
> > high-speed, high-capacity Internet connection. The ISP assigns your
> > computer (through its PPP adapter) a public IP address that uniquely
> > identifies it on the Internet.
>
>
> This is the bit I don't undertsand
>
> The ISP's Internet connection connects it (the ISP) to where?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Sp.

try it this way ...the internet like roads...

your driveway connects to your street , your street connects to a main road
, the road connects to a main highway ...this highway connects to a thousand
other roads/streets.... your car is like your ISP ...letting you access
this huge network to travel on...

how is that for an analogy :>

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> "species8350" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> > > In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
> > > (E-Mail Removed) (species8350) wrote:
> > > >Steve,
> > > >
> > > >I have had to reply to your last message via my previous message
> > > >because your last response, for some reason, wont let me post a
> > > >follow-up??
> > > >
> > > >Following on from your last reply.
> > > >
> > > >Am I right in thinking that when I am connected to my ISP via dial-up
> > > >I form a node on their network. Presumably all other dialups are other
> > > >nodes. But presumably the ISP is the network, since I can't
> > > >communicate with the other nodes (as far as I know - I expect that its
> > > >possible somehow). Therefore they are not part of my network?
> > > >
> > > >My next point is how do I access the Internet/Web. If I am connected
> > > >to the ISP, then the ISP must somehow be connected to the Internet. Do
> > > >they just have a connection to another network?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > > >Hope you notice this
> > > >
> > > >All the best.
> > > >
> > > >Sp.
> > >
> > > When you connect to your dial-up ISP you're a node on their network,
> > > and so are all of their other users.
> > >
> > > In general, ISPs block their users from communicating with each other.
> > > This is, unfortunately, a necessary precaution to prevent Internet
> > > hackers from breaking into unprotected computers.
> > >
> > > Once you connect to your ISP, you're on the Internet, through the ISPs
> > > high-speed, high-capacity Internet connection. The ISP assigns your
> > > computer (through its PPP adapter) a public IP address that uniquely
> > > identifies it on the Internet.
> >
> >
> > This is the bit I don't undertsand
> >
> > The ISP's Internet connection connects it (the ISP) to where?
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Sp.
>
> try it this way ...the internet like roads...
>
> your driveway connects to your street , your street connects to a main road
> , the road connects to a main highway ...this highway connects to a thousand
> other roads/streets.... your car is like your ISP ...letting you access
> this huge network to travel on...
>
> how is that for an analogy :>

well,

The Internet is a linked system of computer networks that have
connected to each other probably by one node. A new ISP comes along
and connects to one of the networks (via a node) and hence becomes
part of the Internet

How's this