Talktalk email addresses

Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses work -
particularly the relationship to the internet account?

A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his email
address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)

His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive emails ok

Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet account -
or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what would the account
name be?

[I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses are in
the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything you like, so
(E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would both belong to the same
(bloggs) account]

I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in his
email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy has checked
it, and says it's ok.

Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is supposed to
work.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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checked.

On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
> Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses work -
> particularly the relationship to the internet account?
>
> A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his email
> address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)
>
> His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive emails ok
>
> Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet account -
> or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what would the account
> name be?
>
> [I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses are in
> the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything you like, so
> (E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would both belong to the same
> (bloggs) account]
>
> I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in his
> email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy has checked
> it, and says it's ok.
>
> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is supposed to
> work.

It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as the
BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main account would be
the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that but would
need to be set up as separate user accounts, both with the ISP and on
the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are required.

Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called Freeserve,
work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). In this case,
the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by
message rules in the email client, for instance: Where the email address
contains the word Fred, put message in the Fred's Mail Box, Where the
email address contains the word Freda, put message in Freda's mail.

Hope that helps

George

"George Weston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
>> Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses work -
>> particularly the relationship to the internet account?
>>
>> A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his email
>> address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>> His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive emails ok
>>
>> Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet account -
>> or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what would the account
>> name be?
>>
>> [I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses are in
>> the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything you like, so
>> (E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would both belong to the same
>> (bloggs) account]
>>
>> I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in his
>> email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy has checked
>> it, and says it's ok.
>>
>> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is supposed to
>> work.
>
> It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as the BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main
> account would be the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that but would need to be set up as separate user accounts,
> both with the ISP and on the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are required.
>
> Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called Freeserve, work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed).
> In this case, the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
> All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by message rules in the email client, for instance: Where the
> email address contains the word Fred, put message in the Fred's Mail Box, Where the email address contains the word Freda, put
> message in Freda's mail.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> George
I don't think that's quite right. take the example of my Freeserve accounts,
still going strong after nearly 10 years. it's in the form
(E-Mail Removed)
it's the bit before the @ that can change
This I have found very useful over the years, and I can set traps for
potential spammers by submitting a unique email address when signing up
for anything
For example I got some emails on the 17 March with a link pointing to a website
claiming to give government grants (completely bogus of course)

I can state categorically that the unique email address I used was
only ever used to sign up for a webs.com webspace account


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:40:05 +0000, George Weston
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
>> Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses work -
>> particularly the relationship to the internet account?
>>
>> A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his email
>> address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>> His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive emails ok
>>
>> Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet account -
>> or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what would the account
>> name be?
>>
>> [I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses are in
>> the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything you like, so
>> (E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would both belong to the same
>> (bloggs) account]
>>
>> I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in his
>> email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy has checked
>> it, and says it's ok.
>>
>> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is supposed to
>> work.
>
>It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as the
>BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main account would be
>the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that but would
>need to be set up as separate user accounts, both with the ISP and on
>the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are required.
>
>Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called Freeserve,
>work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). In this case,
>the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
>All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by
>message rules in the email client, for instance: Where the email address
>contains the word Fred, put message in the Fred's Mail Box, Where the
>email address contains the word Freda, put message in Freda's mail.
>
>Hope that helps
>

Claranet also allow (E-Mail Removed) or
(E-Mail Removed) all messages come into the
same inbox.

I often wonder if other ISPs have that same option for addresses but
the users just don't know about it, for some reason or others.

--
brightside S9

On 26/03/2010 09:07, brightside S9 wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:40:05 +0000, George Weston
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
>>> Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses work -
>>> particularly the relationship to the internet account?
>>>
>>> A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his email
>>> address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)
>>>
>>> His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive emails ok
>>>
>>> Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet account -
>>> or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what would the account
>>> name be?
>>>
>>> [I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses are in
>>> the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything you like, so
>>> (E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would both belong to the same
>>> (bloggs) account]
>>>
>>> I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in his
>>> email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy has checked
>>> it, and says it's ok.
>>>
>>> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is supposed to
>>> work.
>>
>> It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as the
>> BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main account would be
>> the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that but would
>> need to be set up as separate user accounts, both with the ISP and on
>> the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are required.
>>
>> Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called Freeserve,
>> work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). In this case,
>> the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
>> All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by
>> message rules in the email client, for instance: Where the email address
>> contains the word Fred, put message in the Fred's Mail Box, Where the
>> email address contains the word Freda, put message in Freda's mail.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>
> Claranet also allow (E-Mail Removed) or
> (E-Mail Removed) all messages come into the
> same inbox.
>
> I often wonder if other ISPs have that same option for addresses but
> the users just don't know about it, for some reason or others.
>
BT and Plusnet certainly don't give an option in this respect.

George

In an earlier contribution to this discussion, George Weston
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
>>
>> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is
>> supposed to work.
>
> It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as
> the BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main account
> would be the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that
> but would need to be set up as separate user accounts, both with the
> ISP and on the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are
> required.
So are you saying that you can have a single internet account with multiple
user accounts associated with it? If so, it may be that my friend's wife
(who manages to receive all her emails) owns the account, and that my friend
is confused about the exact email address allocated to him by Talktalk.

> Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called
> Freeserve, work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed).
> In this case, the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
> All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by
> message rules in the email client, for instance:
Yes, I'm familiar with both PlusNet and Freeserve/Wanadoo/Orange - and have
accounts with both outfits. Whereas you've lumped them together, they're
actually slightly different.

Freeserve addresses are like (E-Mail Removed) - and Freeserve
doesn't care what the xxx is - everything goes into the same mailbox.

PlusNet addresses look similar - in the form of (E-Mail Removed) -
but PlusNet *does* care about the xxx and allows you to define separate
mailboxes on their server for fred@, mary@ etc. - each with a different
password if you like. Any email aimed at an address with the right account
name but with an undefined xxx ends up in a catch-all mailbox, which you can
choose to ignore if you wish.
--
Cheers,
Roger
_______
Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom
checked.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Graham. <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
> I don't think that's quite right. take the example of my Freeserve
> accounts, still going strong after nearly 10 years. it's in the form
> (E-Mail Removed)
> it's the bit before the @ that can change
> This I have found very useful over the years, and I can set traps for
> potential spammers by submitting a unique email address when signing
> up for anything

Yes, I do exactly the same with my Freeserve account (actually fslife) -
creating a unique address every time I'm forced to create an account with an
on-line supplier before being allowed to buy anything.
--
Cheers,
Roger
_______
Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom
checked.

"Roger Mills" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can some kind soul please explain how talktalk email addresses
> work - particularly the relationship to the internet account?
>
> A friend of mine is having trouble receiving emails. He says his
> email address is in the form of (E-Mail Removed)
>
> His wife's address is (E-Mail Removed) and she can receive
> emails ok
>
> Is it likely that these two addresses belong to the same internet
> account - or would they have separate accounts? If the same, what
> would the account name be?
>
> [I'm used to other ISPs such as PlusNet, where the email addresses
> are in the form of (E-Mail Removed) - where xxx can be anything
> you like, so (E-Mail Removed) and (E-Mail Removed) would
> both belong to the same (bloggs) account]
>
> I suspect that my friend hasn't set the account details correctly in
> his email client (Outlook) but someone claiming to be computer savvy
> has checked it, and says it's ok.
>
> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is
> supposed to work.

You can set up several email addresses per account (can't remember how
many but at least 4 - that's what we've got) - they aren't linked in
any way. You log into the "broadband dashboard" to set them up,
usernames, passwords etc.

--
Andy

On 26/03/2010 13:44, Roger Mills wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion, George Weston
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On 25/03/2010 22:04, Roger Mills wrote:
>>>
>>> Before I wade in, I'd like to understand how talktalk stuff is
>>> supposed to work.
>>
>> It would appear that talk talk addresses work in the same manner as
>> the BTinternet example, i.e. (E-Mail Removed). The main account
>> would be the username and additional addresses would "hang" on that
>> but would need to be set up as separate user accounts, both with the
>> ISP and on the email client (Outlook, etc.) if separate inboxes are
>> required.
> So are you saying that you can have a single internet account with multiple
> user accounts associated with it? If so, it may be that my friend's wife
> (who manages to receive all her emails) owns the account, and that my friend
> is confused about the exact email address allocated to him by Talktalk.
>
>> Plusnet and other ISPs, such as that which used to be called
>> Freeserve, work in the other way, i.e. (E-Mail Removed).
>> In this case, the username for all addresses would be anythingyoulike.
>> All messages would come into the inbox but could be separated out by
>> message rules in the email client, for instance:
> Yes, I'm familiar with both PlusNet and Freeserve/Wanadoo/Orange - and have
> accounts with both outfits. Whereas you've lumped them together, they're
> actually slightly different.
>
> Freeserve addresses are like (E-Mail Removed) - and Freeserve
> doesn't care what the xxx is - everything goes into the same mailbox.
>
> PlusNet addresses look similar - in the form of (E-Mail Removed) -
> but PlusNet *does* care about the xxx and allows you to define separate
> mailboxes on their server for fred@, mary@ etc. - each with a different
> password if you like. Any email aimed at an address with the right account
> name but with an undefined xxx ends up in a catch-all mailbox, which you can
> choose to ignore if you wish.

Yes, I did know that, and have enabled my mailboxes on the Plusnet server.
It wasn't relevant, however, to the OP's question about how ISPs
structure their email address formats, so I didn't want to confuse him
with additional information that probably wouldn't be required, seeing
as he was referring to Talk Talk, of which I know - and care to know -
little!
;-)

George