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Old 12-11-2003, 10:56 PM
Default Win2k3 and RAS



Hi,

After some doing I managed to get a domain working over a
VPN connection. That's all good.
But now out third server cannot connect to the network
anylonger... I have not included that server in the domain
yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...

Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection the
main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
counting connection time until the timout goes and the
connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.

I know that this isn't much info to go on - but frankly I
don't have that much more to give you... it just won't
connect most of the times.
At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
another VPN/PPTP connection had already been established
from another computer (and another account).

Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes and
demand-dial. The connection works fine between "office 1"
and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office 3".

Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
simple thing...

// Fredrik


Fredrik
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Old 12-11-2003, 11:54 PM
Bill Grant
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Default Re: Win2k3 and RAS

Does this server connect directly to the Internet, or does it go via a
router?

Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN connections to be made
through them. They do not give any sensible messages, just fail to connect.


"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> After some doing I managed to get a domain working over a
> VPN connection. That's all good.
> But now out third server cannot connect to the network
> anylonger... I have not included that server in the domain
> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
>
> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection the
> main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
> counting connection time until the timout goes and the
> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
>
> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but frankly I
> don't have that much more to give you... it just won't
> connect most of the times.
> At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been established
> from another computer (and another account).
>
> Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes and
> demand-dial. The connection works fine between "office 1"
> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office 3".
>
> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
> simple thing...
>
> // Fredrik



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Old 12-12-2003, 09:59 AM
Fredrik
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It's connected directly to the internet - all three are.

// Fredrik

>-----Original Message-----
> Does this server connect directly to the Internet, or

does it go via a
>router?
>
> Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN

connections to be made
>through them. They do not give any sensible messages,

just fail to connect.
>
>
>"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>>
>> After some doing I managed to get a domain working over

a
>> VPN connection. That's all good.
>> But now out third server cannot connect to the network
>> anylonger... I have not included that server in the

domain
>> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
>>
>> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection

the
>> main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
>> counting connection time until the timout goes and the
>> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
>>
>> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but frankly

I
>> don't have that much more to give you... it just won't
>> connect most of the times.
>> At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
>> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been established
>> from another computer (and another account).
>>
>> Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes

and
>> demand-dial. The connection works fine between "office

1"
>> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office

3".
>>
>> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
>> simple thing...
>>
>> // Fredrik

>
>
>.
>

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Old 12-13-2003, 02:03 AM
Bill Grant
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It could be a problem with the demand-dial interfaces. To get this to
work, you will need two demand-dial interfaces configured at the "main"
site - one for each connection. This is also essential to get the routing
working properly. Each demand dial interface at the main office must have a
static route to the "calling" office's subnet. The "calling" router must use
the name of its demand dial interface as the username when it connects, to
ensure that it connects correctly and sets up the correct static route.

"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:092501c3c096$affb8670$(E-Mail Removed)...
> It's connected directly to the internet - all three are.
>
> // Fredrik
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > Does this server connect directly to the Internet, or

> does it go via a
> >router?
> >
> > Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN

> connections to be made
> >through them. They do not give any sensible messages,

> just fail to connect.
> >
> >
> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> After some doing I managed to get a domain working over

> a
> >> VPN connection. That's all good.
> >> But now out third server cannot connect to the network
> >> anylonger... I have not included that server in the

> domain
> >> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
> >>
> >> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection

> the
> >> main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
> >> counting connection time until the timout goes and the
> >> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
> >>
> >> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but frankly

> I
> >> don't have that much more to give you... it just won't
> >> connect most of the times.
> >> At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
> >> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been established
> >> from another computer (and another account).
> >>
> >> Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes

> and
> >> demand-dial. The connection works fine between "office

> 1"
> >> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office

> 3".
> >>
> >> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
> >> simple thing...
> >>
> >> // Fredrik

> >
> >
> >.
> >



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Old 12-13-2003, 11:08 AM
Fredrik
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As far as I know - that's exactly what I've done. Since it
works, just not always...

Well, back to square one - reconficure of the RAS service.

// Fredrik

>-----Original Message-----
> It could be a problem with the demand-dial interfaces.

To get this to
>work, you will need two demand-dial interfaces configured

at the "main"
>site - one for each connection. This is also essential to

get the routing
>working properly. Each demand dial interface at the main

office must have a
>static route to the "calling" office's subnet.

The "calling" router must use
>the name of its demand dial interface as the username

when it connects, to
>ensure that it connects correctly and sets up the correct

static route.
>
>"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:092501c3c096$affb8670$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> It's connected directly to the internet - all three are.
>>
>> // Fredrik
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> > Does this server connect directly to the Internet,

or
>> does it go via a
>> >router?
>> >
>> > Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN

>> connections to be made
>> >through them. They do not give any sensible messages,

>> just fail to connect.
>> >
>> >
>> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
>> message
>> >news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> After some doing I managed to get a domain working

over
>> a
>> >> VPN connection. That's all good.
>> >> But now out third server cannot connect to the

network
>> >> anylonger... I have not included that server in the

>> domain
>> >> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection

>> the
>> >> main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
>> >> counting connection time until the timout goes and

the
>> >> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
>> >>
>> >> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but

frankly
>> I
>> >> don't have that much more to give you... it just

won't
>> >> connect most of the times.
>> >> At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
>> >> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been

established
>> >> from another computer (and another account).
>> >>
>> >> Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes

>> and
>> >> demand-dial. The connection works fine

between "office
>> 1"
>> >> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office

>> 3".
>> >>
>> >> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
>> >> simple thing...
>> >>
>> >> // Fredrik
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

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Old 12-13-2003, 10:32 PM
Bill Grant
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If you have two separate demand dial interfaces on the server at "office
1" , it shouldn't matter whether other connections are made or not. The
office server calling up should connect, because it has exclusive use of
that interface.

Do you have the same problem if you do it the other way around? (That
is, if you can get office 3 to connect first, does office 2 have problems?)

You may have to turn on tracing in RRAS and search the trace. (It
produces heaps of output because it logs every step, but it might give you a
hint on where the trouble is).

"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:069f01c3c169$79252470$(E-Mail Removed)...
> As far as I know - that's exactly what I've done. Since it
> works, just not always...
>
> Well, back to square one - reconficure of the RAS service.
>
> // Fredrik
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > It could be a problem with the demand-dial interfaces.

> To get this to
> >work, you will need two demand-dial interfaces configured

> at the "main"
> >site - one for each connection. This is also essential to

> get the routing
> >working properly. Each demand dial interface at the main

> office must have a
> >static route to the "calling" office's subnet.

> The "calling" router must use
> >the name of its demand dial interface as the username

> when it connects, to
> >ensure that it connects correctly and sets up the correct

> static route.
> >
> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:092501c3c096$affb8670$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> It's connected directly to the internet - all three are.
> >>
> >> // Fredrik
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> > Does this server connect directly to the Internet,

> or
> >> does it go via a
> >> >router?
> >> >
> >> > Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN
> >> connections to be made
> >> >through them. They do not give any sensible messages,
> >> just fail to connect.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> in
> >> message
> >> >news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> After some doing I managed to get a domain working

> over
> >> a
> >> >> VPN connection. That's all good.
> >> >> But now out third server cannot connect to the

> network
> >> >> anylonger... I have not included that server in the
> >> domain
> >> >> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
> >> >>
> >> >> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP connection
> >> the
> >> >> main office and sometimes (more often) it just keeps
> >> >> counting connection time until the timout goes and

> the
> >> >> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but

> frankly
> >> I
> >> >> don't have that much more to give you... it just

> won't
> >> >> connect most of the times.
> >> >> At a point it seemed to have something to do with if
> >> >> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been

> established
> >> >> from another computer (and another account).
> >> >>
> >> >> Both servers are setup as routers, with static routes
> >> and
> >> >> demand-dial. The connection works fine

> between "office
> >> 1"
> >> >> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and office
> >> 3".
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked some
> >> >> simple thing...
> >> >>
> >> >> // Fredrik
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



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Old 12-14-2003, 10:09 AM
Fredrik
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Yes, the problem occurs both ways - but only between
Office 1 and 3 not 1 and 2

// Fredrik

>-----Original Message-----
> If you have two separate demand dial interfaces on

the server at "office
>1" , it shouldn't matter whether other connections are

made or not. The
>office server calling up should connect, because it has

exclusive use of
>that interface.
>
> Do you have the same problem if you do it the other

way around? (That
>is, if you can get office 3 to connect first, does office

2 have problems?)
>
> You may have to turn on tracing in RRAS and search

the trace. (It
>produces heaps of output because it logs every step, but

it might give you a
>hint on where the trouble is).
>
>"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:069f01c3c169$79252470$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> As far as I know - that's exactly what I've done. Since

it
>> works, just not always...
>>
>> Well, back to square one - reconficure of the RAS

service.
>>
>> // Fredrik
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> > It could be a problem with the demand-dial

interfaces.
>> To get this to
>> >work, you will need two demand-dial interfaces

configured
>> at the "main"
>> >site - one for each connection. This is also essential

to
>> get the routing
>> >working properly. Each demand dial interface at the

main
>> office must have a
>> >static route to the "calling" office's subnet.

>> The "calling" router must use
>> >the name of its demand dial interface as the username

>> when it connects, to
>> >ensure that it connects correctly and sets up the

correct
>> static route.
>> >
>> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
>> message
>> >news:092501c3c096$affb8670$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> It's connected directly to the internet - all three

are.
>> >>
>> >> // Fredrik
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> > Does this server connect directly to the

Internet,
>> or
>> >> does it go via a
>> >> >router?
>> >> >
>> >> > Some SOHO routers will only allow one or two VPN
>> >> connections to be made
>> >> >through them. They do not give any sensible

messages,
>> >> just fail to connect.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Fredrik" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote
>> in
>> >> message
>> >> >news:038001c3c039$fa0f6e50$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After some doing I managed to get a domain working

>> over
>> >> a
>> >> >> VPN connection. That's all good.
>> >> >> But now out third server cannot connect to the

>> network
>> >> >> anylonger... I have not included that server in

the
>> >> domain
>> >> >> yet, since I cannot get it do dial up reliably...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sometimes it manages to establish the PPTP

connection
>> >> the
>> >> >> main office and sometimes (more often) it just

keeps
>> >> >> counting connection time until the timout goes and

>> the
>> >> >> connection gets the 'Unreachable' status.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know that this isn't much info to go on - but

>> frankly
>> >> I
>> >> >> don't have that much more to give you... it just

>> won't
>> >> >> connect most of the times.
>> >> >> At a point it seemed to have something to do with

if
>> >> >> another VPN/PPTP connection had already been

>> established
>> >> >> from another computer (and another account).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Both servers are setup as routers, with static

routes
>> >> and
>> >> >> demand-dial. The connection works fine

>> between "office
>> >> 1"
>> >> >> and "office 2", but not between "office 1" and

office
>> >> 3".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any help is appriciated - I may have overlooked

some
>> >> >> simple thing...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> // Fredrik
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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Old 12-21-2003, 03:07 PM
omer
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is it required to setup wins server in 2003 server to accept the client in
win 9x.

tnx


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