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Old 11-18-2003, 01:07 AM
 
Jeff Clark


Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
Thanks




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Old 11-18-2003, 01:47 AM
 
Dave Patrick
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



Interfere in what way? We're just about to start up the same.

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"Jeff Clark" wrote:
> Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:41 AM
 
Jeff Clark
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



I can only get one or the other. The Network blocks out the camera.
dell wireless router vs x10 4 channel web sender

"Dave Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Interfere in what way? We're just about to start up the same.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
>
> "Jeff Clark" wrote:
> > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
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Old 11-18-2003, 07:37 AM
 
Lorne Smith
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the video have
switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do about it
except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll also find
microwave ovens interfere too...

Lorne

"Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
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> Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> Thanks
>
>
>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 05:49 PM
 
Jeff Clark
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



i have changed to all 4 frequncies - no help

What can i do, meaning what other solutions are out there?


"Lorne Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the video

have
> switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do about it
> except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll also

find
> microwave ovens interfere too...
>
> Lorne
>
> "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 07:22 PM
 
trebor4258
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video




"Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> i have changed to all 4 frequncies - no help
>
> What can i do, meaning what other solutions are out there?
>
>
> "Lorne Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the video

> have
> > switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do about it
> > except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll also

> find
> > microwave ovens interfere too...
> >
> > Lorne
> >
> > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>


Typically, the video repeaters will wipe out the routers, but the routers
will only cause noise to the video repeaters (popping sound and streak in
the video at about 1 or 2 pps).

The video repeaters (at least the ones I've seen) have a switch on each end
that lets you pick one of four channels. If you try any of this stuff, try
it first with the video set on the first channel, then the last. Avoid the
channels in the middle.

Some of the 802.11 stuff is spread spectrum, so it's constantly changing
frequencies and doesn't put all of it's energy into one. Others, have a
channel selection choice in their configuration. You'll have to play around
with the setup on both the router and any wireless cards if you change any
of the configurations. (THEY MUST MATCH EXACTLY.) If you're using a D-Link
router & wireless card that have the "super-duper-speed-thing" turned on,
turn it off. That'll make reception better regardless of any interference.

Try to set the video repeater up first and make it as directional as
possible. If it's the kind with the little panel antennas, try to point the
sender at the receiver and vice-vera. If the sender has a little mast
antenna in addition to the panel, fold it down, but make sure that you can
still get a signal.

If you're traversing floors inside a house with the router, but not the
video (or vice-versa) consider putting one of the units on a high shelf and
its complement on the floor. If you're only working in one plane, then it's
just geography (not geometry <g>).

Figure out if there's a place to put your wireless access point so that it's
not directly in the path of the video repeater's signal. If it's a regular
wireless router, like a D-Link or a Linksys, chances are that it has one or
two little stubby antennas on the back. Unlike the video repeater antennas,
these aren't directional; they are omni-directional so they're going to
"spray" all over the place. You can prevent some of that, again, by
pointing the antennas to where you need the signal and by trying to avoid
overlapping with the video repeater's path. Again, depending on the type or
routers you have, a good healthy reset (and configuration reload) wouldn't
hurt every time you move something. I don't know it for fact, but have
heard that some of the 802.11 stuff is "smart" enough to avoid interference,
but may only look around when it's initialized.

If this gets you anywhere close, there are some directional antennas that
you can buy for the wireless routers that might help, but before I spent any
money, I'd consider looking at the newer wireless stuff that's on 5.8Ghz. A
whole new set of frequencies for everybody to muck up, but they'll be clean
for a while. Also, you might look for some older video repeaters (?eBay?).
IIRC, there were some that operated on 900Mhz and that shouldn't interfere.

Finally, as you're playing around with the antennas, if you find that you
can get the video signal lined up reasonably well, it does work to make a
little shield out of any kind of metal (aluminum foil worked for me). Wrap
this around the back of the panel antennas and let it stick out to protect
the sides. (It probably should be grounded, but I didn't worry about it and
it helped.) I never had to do it, but you could probably do the same thing
on the router's antennas with foil and tape.

trebor



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Old 11-18-2003, 08:46 PM
 
Jeff Clark
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



thank you very much

"trebor4258" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > i have changed to all 4 frequncies - no help
> >
> > What can i do, meaning what other solutions are out there?
> >
> >
> > "Lorne Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the video

> > have
> > > switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do about

it
> > > except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll

also
> > find
> > > microwave ovens interfere too...
> > >
> > > Lorne
> > >
> > > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
> Typically, the video repeaters will wipe out the routers, but the routers
> will only cause noise to the video repeaters (popping sound and streak in
> the video at about 1 or 2 pps).
>
> The video repeaters (at least the ones I've seen) have a switch on each

end
> that lets you pick one of four channels. If you try any of this stuff,

try
> it first with the video set on the first channel, then the last. Avoid

the
> channels in the middle.
>
> Some of the 802.11 stuff is spread spectrum, so it's constantly changing
> frequencies and doesn't put all of it's energy into one. Others, have a
> channel selection choice in their configuration. You'll have to play

around
> with the setup on both the router and any wireless cards if you change any
> of the configurations. (THEY MUST MATCH EXACTLY.) If you're using a

D-Link
> router & wireless card that have the "super-duper-speed-thing" turned on,
> turn it off. That'll make reception better regardless of any

interference.
>
> Try to set the video repeater up first and make it as directional as
> possible. If it's the kind with the little panel antennas, try to point

the
> sender at the receiver and vice-vera. If the sender has a little mast
> antenna in addition to the panel, fold it down, but make sure that you can
> still get a signal.
>
> If you're traversing floors inside a house with the router, but not the
> video (or vice-versa) consider putting one of the units on a high shelf

and
> its complement on the floor. If you're only working in one plane, then

it's
> just geography (not geometry <g>).
>
> Figure out if there's a place to put your wireless access point so that

it's
> not directly in the path of the video repeater's signal. If it's a

regular
> wireless router, like a D-Link or a Linksys, chances are that it has one

or
> two little stubby antennas on the back. Unlike the video repeater

antennas,
> these aren't directional; they are omni-directional so they're going to
> "spray" all over the place. You can prevent some of that, again, by
> pointing the antennas to where you need the signal and by trying to avoid
> overlapping with the video repeater's path. Again, depending on the type

or
> routers you have, a good healthy reset (and configuration reload) wouldn't
> hurt every time you move something. I don't know it for fact, but have
> heard that some of the 802.11 stuff is "smart" enough to avoid

interference,
> but may only look around when it's initialized.
>
> If this gets you anywhere close, there are some directional antennas that
> you can buy for the wireless routers that might help, but before I spent

any
> money, I'd consider looking at the newer wireless stuff that's on 5.8Ghz.

A
> whole new set of frequencies for everybody to muck up, but they'll be

clean
> for a while. Also, you might look for some older video repeaters

(?eBay?).
> IIRC, there were some that operated on 900Mhz and that shouldn't

interfere.
>
> Finally, as you're playing around with the antennas, if you find that you
> can get the video signal lined up reasonably well, it does work to make a
> little shield out of any kind of metal (aluminum foil worked for me).

Wrap
> this around the back of the panel antennas and let it stick out to protect
> the sides. (It probably should be grounded, but I didn't worry about it

and
> it helped.) I never had to do it, but you could probably do the same

thing
> on the router's antennas with foil and tape.
>
> trebor
>
>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 10:01 PM
 
trebor4258
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



No problem; Let us know how it all comes out.

trebor
(with apologies for top posting)



"Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> thank you very much
>
> "trebor4258" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > i have changed to all 4 frequncies - no help
> > >
> > > What can i do, meaning what other solutions are out there?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Lorne Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the

video
> > > have
> > > > switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do about

> it
> > > > except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll

> also
> > > find
> > > > microwave ovens interfere too...
> > > >
> > > > Lorne
> > > >
> > > > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Typically, the video repeaters will wipe out the routers, but the

routers
> > will only cause noise to the video repeaters (popping sound and streak

in
> > the video at about 1 or 2 pps).
> >
> > The video repeaters (at least the ones I've seen) have a switch on each

> end
> > that lets you pick one of four channels. If you try any of this stuff,

> try
> > it first with the video set on the first channel, then the last. Avoid

> the
> > channels in the middle.
> >
> > Some of the 802.11 stuff is spread spectrum, so it's constantly changing
> > frequencies and doesn't put all of it's energy into one. Others, have a
> > channel selection choice in their configuration. You'll have to play

> around
> > with the setup on both the router and any wireless cards if you change

any
> > of the configurations. (THEY MUST MATCH EXACTLY.) If you're using a

> D-Link
> > router & wireless card that have the "super-duper-speed-thing" turned

on,
> > turn it off. That'll make reception better regardless of any

> interference.
> >
> > Try to set the video repeater up first and make it as directional as
> > possible. If it's the kind with the little panel antennas, try to point

> the
> > sender at the receiver and vice-vera. If the sender has a little mast
> > antenna in addition to the panel, fold it down, but make sure that you

can
> > still get a signal.
> >
> > If you're traversing floors inside a house with the router, but not the
> > video (or vice-versa) consider putting one of the units on a high shelf

> and
> > its complement on the floor. If you're only working in one plane, then

> it's
> > just geography (not geometry <g>).
> >
> > Figure out if there's a place to put your wireless access point so that

> it's
> > not directly in the path of the video repeater's signal. If it's a

> regular
> > wireless router, like a D-Link or a Linksys, chances are that it has one

> or
> > two little stubby antennas on the back. Unlike the video repeater

> antennas,
> > these aren't directional; they are omni-directional so they're going to
> > "spray" all over the place. You can prevent some of that, again, by
> > pointing the antennas to where you need the signal and by trying to

avoid
> > overlapping with the video repeater's path. Again, depending on the

type
> or
> > routers you have, a good healthy reset (and configuration reload)

wouldn't
> > hurt every time you move something. I don't know it for fact, but have
> > heard that some of the 802.11 stuff is "smart" enough to avoid

> interference,
> > but may only look around when it's initialized.
> >
> > If this gets you anywhere close, there are some directional antennas

that
> > you can buy for the wireless routers that might help, but before I spent

> any
> > money, I'd consider looking at the newer wireless stuff that's on

5.8Ghz.
> A
> > whole new set of frequencies for everybody to muck up, but they'll be

> clean
> > for a while. Also, you might look for some older video repeaters

> (?eBay?).
> > IIRC, there were some that operated on 900Mhz and that shouldn't

> interfere.
> >
> > Finally, as you're playing around with the antennas, if you find that

you
> > can get the video signal lined up reasonably well, it does work to make

a
> > little shield out of any kind of metal (aluminum foil worked for me).

> Wrap
> > this around the back of the panel antennas and let it stick out to

protect
> > the sides. (It probably should be grounded, but I didn't worry about it

> and
> > it helped.) I never had to do it, but you could probably do the same

> thing
> > on the router's antennas with foil and tape.
> >
> > trebor
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-18-2003, 10:40 PM
 
Jeff Clark
Default Re: 2.4 gig Network AND 2.4 gig Video



i will but i may not have a final outcome for a while
"trebor4258" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> No problem; Let us know how it all comes out.
>
> trebor
> (with apologies for top posting)
>
>
>
> "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > thank you very much
> >
> > "trebor4258" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >
> > > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > i have changed to all 4 frequncies - no help
> > > >
> > > > What can i do, meaning what other solutions are out there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Lorne Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Not too surprising when both use the same frequency... Does the

> video
> > > > have
> > > > > switches to change band? If not, there's not a lot you can do

about
> > it
> > > > > except change one or the other to different frequencies... You'll

> > also
> > > > find
> > > > > microwave ovens interfere too...
> > > > >
> > > > > Lorne
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jeff Clark" <JeffC@NO_SPAMreturnventures.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Hi these two suckers interfere with each other. What do i do?
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Typically, the video repeaters will wipe out the routers, but the

> routers
> > > will only cause noise to the video repeaters (popping sound and streak

> in
> > > the video at about 1 or 2 pps).
> > >
> > > The video repeaters (at least the ones I've seen) have a switch on

each
> > end
> > > that lets you pick one of four channels. If you try any of this

stuff,
> > try
> > > it first with the video set on the first channel, then the last.

Avoid
> > the
> > > channels in the middle.
> > >
> > > Some of the 802.11 stuff is spread spectrum, so it's constantly

changing
> > > frequencies and doesn't put all of it's energy into one. Others, have

a
> > > channel selection choice in their configuration. You'll have to play

> > around
> > > with the setup on both the router and any wireless cards if you change

> any
> > > of the configurations. (THEY MUST MATCH EXACTLY.) If you're using a

> > D-Link
> > > router & wireless card that have the "super-duper-speed-thing" turned

> on,
> > > turn it off. That'll make reception better regardless of any

> > interference.
> > >
> > > Try to set the video repeater up first and make it as directional as
> > > possible. If it's the kind with the little panel antennas, try to

point
> > the
> > > sender at the receiver and vice-vera. If the sender has a little mast
> > > antenna in addition to the panel, fold it down, but make sure that you

> can
> > > still get a signal.
> > >
> > > If you're traversing floors inside a house with the router, but not

the
> > > video (or vice-versa) consider putting one of the units on a high

shelf
> > and
> > > its complement on the floor. If you're only working in one plane,

then
> > it's
> > > just geography (not geometry <g>).
> > >
> > > Figure out if there's a place to put your wireless access point so

that
> > it's
> > > not directly in the path of the video repeater's signal. If it's a

> > regular
> > > wireless router, like a D-Link or a Linksys, chances are that it has

one
> > or
> > > two little stubby antennas on the back. Unlike the video repeater

> > antennas,
> > > these aren't directional; they are omni-directional so they're going

to
> > > "spray" all over the place. You can prevent some of that, again, by
> > > pointing the antennas to where you need the signal and by trying to

> avoid
> > > overlapping with the video repeater's path. Again, depending on the

> type
> > or
> > > routers you have, a good healthy reset (and configuration reload)

> wouldn't
> > > hurt every time you move something. I don't know it for fact, but

have
> > > heard that some of the 802.11 stuff is "smart" enough to avoid

> > interference,
> > > but may only look around when it's initialized.
> > >
> > > If this gets you anywhere close, there are some directional antennas

> that
> > > you can buy for the wireless routers that might help, but before I

spent
> > any
> > > money, I'd consider looking at the newer wireless stuff that's on

> 5.8Ghz.
> > A
> > > whole new set of frequencies for everybody to muck up, but they'll be

> > clean
> > > for a while. Also, you might look for some older video repeaters

> > (?eBay?).
> > > IIRC, there were some that operated on 900Mhz and that shouldn't

> > interfere.
> > >
> > > Finally, as you're playing around with the antennas, if you find that

> you
> > > can get the video signal lined up reasonably well, it does work to

make
> a
> > > little shield out of any kind of metal (aluminum foil worked for me).

> > Wrap
> > > this around the back of the panel antennas and let it stick out to

> protect
> > > the sides. (It probably should be grounded, but I didn't worry about

it
> > and
> > > it helped.) I never had to do it, but you could probably do the same

> > thing
> > > on the router's antennas with foil and tape.
> > >
> > > trebor
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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