Reporting spam

Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
like most has a no spam policy?

So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
reported?

You thoughts please.

--
JC




JC

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:10 -0000, "JC"
<tullyhubbert(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
>like most has a no spam policy?
>
>So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
>go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
>reported?
>
>You thoughts please.

If it's posted via Google, forget it.
If it's from China or India as well then double forget it.
Chinese spam is Google's cash cow.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ http://www.pherber.com/

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:10 -0000, "JC"
<tullyhubbert(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
>like most has a no spam policy?
>
>So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
>go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
>reported?
>
>You thoughts please.

What spam? I think you need to use a better service and newsreader.

In article <(E-Mail Removed). net>, Paul
Herber <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:10 -0000, "JC"
><tullyhubbert(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
>>like most has a no spam policy?
>>
>>So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
>>go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
>>reported?
>>
>>You thoughts please.
>
>If it's posted via Google, forget it.

In that Google don't give a shit I agree but at least they put the
poster's IP address in the header so you can find where it originates.
I've had some success in making complaints to a Google poster's ISP when
they were based in the UK.

>If it's from China or India as well then double forget it.
>Chinese spam is Google's cash cow.
>
Absolutely, and the current batch it all India & China.

To the o/p, with the asian stuff you just have to work out a filtering
rule set from the headers, or use purpose made filtering proggy.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

JC wrote:

> Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
> like most has a no spam policy?

Whether or not it does, just about every ISP has a no spam policy.


> So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
> go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
> reported?
>
> You thoughts please.

Firstly, do you know how to read headers ? I mean FULL headers that is. For
example your post's headers were ..

Path:

news.astraweb.com!mrouter3.a.astraweb.com!news.ast raweb.com!border2.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!feeder .news-service.com!feeder2.cambrium.nl!feeder3.cambrium.n l!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!postnews.g oogle.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews .com!nntp.pipex.net!news.pipex.net.POSTED!not-for-mail

NNTP-Posting-Date:
Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:42:13 -0500
From:
"JC" <tullyhubbert(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
uk.telecom.broadband
Subject:
Reporting spam
Date:
Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:10 -0000
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You'll need that info to report anyone, you'll simply be told to do it again if
you omit it.

It's worth doing a 'whois' to ensure the posting IP address matches any
complaint reporting info. It's not unknown for some of that info to be faked.
And of course, the abuse report address may belong to the news server operator,
not the ISP the poster is with.

Graham

Paul Herber wrote:

> Chinese spam is Google's cash cow.

How does Google make any money from that ?

Graham

In article <_(E-Mail Removed)>, "JC" <tullyhubbert
(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com> says...
> Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
> like most has a no spam policy?
>
> So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
> go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
> reported?
>
> You thoughts please.

Losing battle.
--
Regards
Jon

In message <_(E-Mail Removed)>, JC
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes

>Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
>like most has a no spam policy?

It has a *no ads* policy ...
http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.telecom....ecom.broadband
I doubt the Chinese shoe manufacturers would ever *read* UK
usenet ... they are "fire forget" posters ... drive-by spammers

>So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups.
Tracing a Usenet post is a dark art ... :-(

>How do you
>go about eporting them and do their ISP's
You have to trace the injection point, read the headers ... then
decide / test if the header *is forged*; don't ask me ... it's a dark
art I don't have yet ... (you could try

http://groups.google.com/group/news.....usenet/topics
or subscribe to the group in your newsreader ... )

remember to lurk and read ...


> actually do anything when they are
>reported?
Depends upon the ISP; in the UK, probably they *will* act
(although they may not tell you exactly what they did) ... in the USA
(where most of the crap is spewed from) ... possibly not :-(

If the ISP is actually a huge telco ... well, historically they
seem to care little (when Tiscali came to the UK it was, from my point
of view, a HUGE spam sewer)



There are two scales of abuse, "BI" and "off-topic"

BI (excessive cross / multi-posting) is *abuse* of usenet (abuse
of the resources, most ISPs are more interested in this / stopping this)

off-topic is abuse *on* usenet ... many ISPs will only warn the
poster, if that

http://www.usenet.org.uk/
Whole of Usenet UK's charters can be traced from here ...
--
Rex M F Smith

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:10 -0000, "JC"
<tullyhubbert(REMOVESPAMTRAP)@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Where can I view charters for various news groups, I'm guessing this one
>like most has a no spam policy?
>
>So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do you
>go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they are
>reported?
>
>You thoughts please.
Total waist of time just ignore and move on .

On 19-Mar-2008, Jon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > So is it worthwhile reporting the spammers who polute our groups. How do
> > you
> > go about eporting them and do their ISP's actually do anything when they
> > are
> > reported?
> >
> > You thoughts please.

I block sender with a 30day expiry. I can set number
of days for expiry, but the default 30days works fine.