Sat connection to existing ethernet.

Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
install etc. went.

If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run both
Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that protocol.
The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs on
the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some in-house
gaming and the like.

Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4 port
router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and existing
switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static. All
existed as before.

Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he even
knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under XP and
stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I have a
second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic networking at
all.

In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch unpowered,
cables off back of pc etc. etc.

So here's how it went down and all's now working.

Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a moment
there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range of
router.
Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect switch to
router.
For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never connect
...." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could use
the sat connection.

Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less than
I do when I feel I know so little myself







pjp

"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
| install etc. went.
|
| If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run
both
| Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
| historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
protocol.
| The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs on
| the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
in-house
| gaming and the like.
|
| Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
port
| router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and existing
| switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static. All
| existed as before.
|
| Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
| solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he even
| knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under XP
and
| stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I have a
| second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic networking
at
| all.
|
| In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch unpowered,
| cables off back of pc etc. etc.
|
| So here's how it went down and all's now working.
|
| Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
| Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
| Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
| Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a moment
| there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
| Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range of
| router.
| Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect switch
to
| router.
| For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
connect
| ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
| As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could use
| the sat connection.
|
| Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
than
| I do when I feel I know so little myself
|

Well, sadly that story of the unqualified installer is not all that
unusual,,, one always hopes for a qualified one though. Seems, to turn a
higher profit for the business and investors, the cash outlay for
experienced support and installation personnel has been drastically reduced
in all businesses. If a business is essentially the only provider of
something, and it may not even be overly concerned with disgruntled
customers.

We're glad you were able to walk through the issues yourself, and you have
definitely earned that sense of accomplishment. One future issue may be the
re-start after a power outage, just make sure you follow the Internet/SAT to
local route at power-up routine with dynamic addressing.

Have fun, and keep up with that local security, its truly a jungle out
here.

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________

Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run all my
home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled, just in
case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs, whether they
are in the DHCP range or not.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
> install etc. went.
>
> If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run
> both
> Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
> historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
> protocol.
> The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs on
> the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
> in-house
> gaming and the like.
>
> Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
> port
> router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and existing
> switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static. All
> existed as before.
>
> Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
> solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he even
> knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under XP
> and
> stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I have a
> second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic networking
> at
> all.
>
> In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch unpowered,
> cables off back of pc etc. etc.
>
> So here's how it went down and all's now working.
>
> Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
> Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
> Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
> Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a moment
> there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
> Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range of
> router.
> Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect switch
> to
> router.
> For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
> connect
> ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
> As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could use
> the sat connection.
>
> Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
> than
> I do when I feel I know so little myself
>
>
>
>
>

Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and as
I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
"seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%239P$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run all
my
> home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled, just
in
> case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs, whether
they
> are in the DHCP range or not.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
> > install etc. went.
> >
> > If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run
> > both
> > Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
> > historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
> > protocol.
> > The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs
on
> > the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
> > in-house
> > gaming and the like.
> >
> > Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
> > port
> > router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
existing
> > switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static.
All
> > existed as before.
> >
> > Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
> > solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he even
> > knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under XP
> > and
> > stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I have
a
> > second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
networking
> > at
> > all.
> >
> > In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
unpowered,
> > cables off back of pc etc. etc.
> >
> > So here's how it went down and all's now working.
> >
> > Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
> > Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
> > Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
> > Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
moment
> > there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
> > Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range of
> > router.
> > Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
switch
> > to
> > router.
> > For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
> > connect
> > ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
> > As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could
use
> > the sat connection.
> >
> > Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
> > than
> > I do when I feel I know so little myself
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting, that
would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network Neighborhood].

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and as
| I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
| worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
| "seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| news:%239P$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run
all
| my
| > home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled,
just
| in
| > case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs, whether
| they
| > are in the DHCP range or not.
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > www.grystmill.com
| >
| > "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
| > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| > > Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
| > > install etc. went.
| > >
| > > If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all
run
| > > both
| > > Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
| > > historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
| > > protocol.
| > > The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs
| on
| > > the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
| > > in-house
| > > gaming and the like.
| > >
| > > Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
| > > port
| > > router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
| existing
| > > switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static.
| All
| > > existed as before.
| > >
| > > Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
| > > solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
even
| > > knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under
XP
| > > and
| > > stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
have
| a
| > > second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
| networking
| > > at
| > > all.
| > >
| > > In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
| unpowered,
| > > cables off back of pc etc. etc.
| > >
| > > So here's how it went down and all's now working.
| > >
| > > Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
| > > Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
| > > Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
| > > Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
| moment
| > > there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
| > > Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range
of
| > > router.
| > > Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
| switch
| > > to
| > > router.
| > > For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
| > > connect
| > > ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
| > > As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could
| use
| > > the sat connection.
| > >
| > > Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
| > > than
| > > I do when I feel I know so little myself
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
|
|

Got it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, <s>. Personally, I'm
static-IP-happy. Not real sure why, just feels better.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and as
> I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
> worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
> "seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%239P$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run all
> my
>> home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled, just
> in
>> case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs, whether
> they
>> are in the DHCP range or not.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
>> > install etc. went.
>> >
>> > If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run
>> > both
>> > Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
>> > historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
>> > protocol.
>> > The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs
> on
>> > the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
>> > in-house
>> > gaming and the like.
>> >
>> > Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
>> > port
>> > router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
> existing
>> > switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static.
> All
>> > existed as before.
>> >
>> > Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
>> > solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
>> > even
>> > knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under
>> > XP
>> > and
>> > stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
>> > have
> a
>> > second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
> networking
>> > at
>> > all.
>> >
>> > In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
> unpowered,
>> > cables off back of pc etc. etc.
>> >
>> > So here's how it went down and all's now working.
>> >
>> > Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
>> > Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
>> > Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
>> > Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
> moment
>> > there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
>> > Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range
>> > of
>> > router.
>> > Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
> switch
>> > to
>> > router.
>> > For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
>> > connect
>> > ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
>> > As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could
> use
>> > the sat connection.
>> >
>> > Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
>> > than
>> > I do when I feel I know so little myself
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I want
to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

"MEB" <meb@not (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
> setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting, that
> would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network
Neighborhood].
>
> --
>
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> _________
>
>
> "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and
as
> | I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
> | worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
> | "seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.
> |
> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | news:%239P$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run
> all
> | my
> | > home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled,
> just
> | in
> | > case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs,
whether
> | they
> | > are in the DHCP range or not.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Gary S. Terhune
> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > www.grystmill.com
> | >
> | > "pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
> | > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > > Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat
dish
> | > > install etc. went.
> | > >
> | > > If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all
> run
> | > > both
> | > > Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
> | > > historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
> | > > protocol.
> | > > The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the
pcs
> | on
> | > > the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
> | > > in-house
> | > > gaming and the like.
> | > >
> | > > Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a
4
> | > > port
> | > > router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
> | existing
> | > > switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them
static.
> | All
> | > > existed as before.
> | > >
> | > > Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to
a
> | > > solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
> even
> | > > knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic
under
> XP
> | > > and
> | > > stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
> have
> | a
> | > > second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
> | networking
> | > > at
> | > > all.
> | > >
> | > > In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
> | unpowered,
> | > > cables off back of pc etc. etc.
> | > >
> | > > So here's how it went down and all's now working.
> | > >
> | > > Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
> | > > Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic
ips.
> | > > Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
> | > > Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
> | moment
> | > > there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
> | > > Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in
range
> of
> | > > router.
> | > > Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
> | switch
> | > > to
> | > > router.
> | > > For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
> | > > connect
> | > > ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
> | > > As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately
could
> | use
> | > > the sat connection.
> | > >
> | > > Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even
less
> | > > than
> | > > I do when I feel I know so little myself
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I
want
| to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

AAAhhh, gotcha now. Best check with your provider to see if they allow that
[some can be particular]... then again, I don't know what you intend to use
it for.
http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/

|
| "MEB" <meb@not (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| >
| > If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
| > setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting,
that
| > would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network
| Neighborhood].
| >
| > --
| >
| > MEB
--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________