WLAN disconnects every X minutes/hours

Hello!

I have a brand new Netgear WGR614 v7 but ever since it it running I
experience WLAN disconnects from my laptop. I use WPA-PSK [TKIP] for
securing my WLAN. I also tried this system control setting (I
deactivated something I can't remember where I found it, but seems to
be a frequent cause for disconnects in Windows XP)...

The disconnects occurr irregularly, sometimes running fine for hours,
sometimes there a 2 or disconnects within one hour, usually no more
than 1-4 disconnects a day. But when occurring at the wrong time, it's
really annyoning...

Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?

Karsten


Karsten Wutzke

Karsten Wutzke <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a brand new Netgear WGR614 v7 but ever since it it running I
>experience WLAN disconnects from my laptop. I use WPA-PSK [TKIP] for
>securing my WLAN. I also tried this system control setting (I
>deactivated something I can't remember where I found it, but seems to
>be a frequent cause for disconnects in Windows XP)...
>
>The disconnects occurr irregularly, sometimes running fine for hours,
>sometimes there a 2 or disconnects within one hour, usually no more
>than 1-4 disconnects a day. But when occurring at the wrong time, it's
>really annyoning...
>
>Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?

Just a guess. Interference from other systems, microwave ovens,
municipal wireless networks, and cordless phones. See:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Interference>
for a list of possible sources. If it's so severe that it causes a
disconnect, it may be difficult to cure. Do a site survey with Kismet
or Netstumbler and see if there are any nearby strong signals. Note
the channels and set your WGR614v7 to a hopefully un-used channel (1,
6, or 11).

The WGR614 v7 can save your settings to a file. If you're going to
experiment with settings, I suggest you reset the router to defaults,
apply the basic settings (password, SSID, WPA, WAN access, etc) and
save the settings. The rule is "Don't do anything you can't undo".

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:58:59 -0800 (PST), Karsten Wutzke
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<807ee65f-3c9c-4450-9f77-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>I have a brand new Netgear WGR614 v7 but ever since it it running I
>experience WLAN disconnects from my laptop. I use WPA-PSK [TKIP] for
>securing my WLAN. I also tried this system control setting (I
>deactivated something I can't remember where I found it, but seems to
>be a frequent cause for disconnects in Windows XP)...
>
>The disconnects occurr irregularly, sometimes running fine for hours,
>sometimes there a 2 or disconnects within one hour, usually no more
>than 1-4 disconnects a day. But when occurring at the wrong time, it's
>really annyoning...
>
>Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?

The likely problem is radio interference.
See that topic in the wiki below.
Try different channels (1, 6, 11).

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Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:23:46 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>Karsten Wutzke <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a brand new Netgear WGR614 v7 but ever since it it running I
>>experience WLAN disconnects from my laptop. I use WPA-PSK [TKIP] for
>>securing my WLAN. I also tried this system control setting (I
>>deactivated something I can't remember where I found it, but seems to
>>be a frequent cause for disconnects in Windows XP)...
>>
>>The disconnects occurr irregularly, sometimes running fine for hours,
>>sometimes there a 2 or disconnects within one hour, usually no more
>>than 1-4 disconnects a day. But when occurring at the wrong time, it's
>>really annyoning...
>>
>>Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
>
>Just a guess. Interference from other systems, microwave ovens,
>municipal wireless networks, and cordless phones. See:
><http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Interference>
>for a list of possible sources. If it's so severe that it causes a
>disconnect, it may be difficult to cure. Do a site survey with Kismet
>or Netstumbler and see if there are any nearby strong signals. ...

Sure, but that won't find non-Wi-Fi interference, which may well be the
cause of the problem.

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Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Feb 20, 10:58 am, Karsten Wutzke <kwut...@web.de> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I have a brand new Netgear WGR614 v7 but ever since it it running I
> experience WLAN disconnects from my laptop. I use WPA-PSK [TKIP] for
> securing my WLAN. I also tried this system control setting (I
> deactivated something I can't remember where I found it, but seems to
> be a frequent cause for disconnects in Windows XP)...
>
> The disconnects occurr irregularly, sometimes running fine for hours,
> sometimes there a 2 or disconnects within one hour, usually no more
> than 1-4 disconnects a day. But when occurring at the wrong time, it's
> really annyoning...
>
> Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
>
> Karsten

WPA-PSK authentication is harder to crack than WEPs, but it comes with
a drawbacks in connectivity. WPA encryption algorithms make it
susceptible to deauth attacks to the points that a deauth flood will
disrupt the network and render it completely unusable. If the deauth
attack is running a in a loop, it serves as a mass denial-of-service
and none of the clients will be able to connect to your router.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:19:30 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
<2521745c-5b9b-4462-9497-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>WPA-PSK authentication is harder to crack than WEPs, but it comes with
>a drawbacks in connectivity. WPA encryption algorithms make it
>susceptible to deauth attacks to the points that a deauth flood will
>disrupt the network and render it completely unusable. If the deauth
>attack is running a in a loop, it serves as a mass denial-of-service
>and none of the clients will be able to connect to your router.

That's nothing against WPA-PSK, since it's trivial to disrupt a Wi-Fi
network by a number of different means, including simple jamming.

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Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Feb 23, 12:36 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:19:30 -0800 (PST), bi...@scn.org wrote in
> <2521745c-5b9b-4462-9497-09db2d274...@b29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >WPA-PSK authentication is harder to crack than WEPs, but it comes with
> >a drawbacks in connectivity. WPA encryption algorithms make it
> >susceptible to deauth attacks to the points that a deauth flood will
> >disrupt the network and render it completely unusable. If the deauth
> >attack is running a in a loop, it serves as a mass denial-of-service
> >and none of the clients will be able to connect to your router.
>
> That's nothing against WPA-PSK, since it's trivial to disrupt a Wi-Fi
> network by a number of different means, including simple jamming.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

That's everything against WPA-PSK!! The thing is, chump, one can build
sound arguments against every man-made thing that has ever created.
All coins have two sides. Do you know that there are trade-offs in
engineering designs? Reliability vs. performance, reliability vs. ease
of use, performance vs. ease of use, or reliability and performance vs
cost... you name it!!

Don't be ignorant. Educate yourself and know where you stand on the
issue.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Don't be ignorant. Educate yourself and know where you stand on the
> issue.

RUT RO...I better start fixing some popcorn.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:48:10 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
<1a458bbd-14e4-4af6-a828-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>On Feb 23, 12:36 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:19:30 -0800 (PST), bi...@scn.org wrote in
>> <2521745c-5b9b-4462-9497-09db2d274...@b29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> >WPA-PSK authentication is harder to crack than WEPs, but it comes with
>> >a drawbacks in connectivity. WPA encryption algorithms make it
>> >susceptible to deauth attacks to the points that a deauth flood will
>> >disrupt the network and render it completely unusable. If the deauth
>> >attack is running a in a loop, it serves as a mass denial-of-service
>> >and none of the clients will be able to connect to your router.
>>
>> That's nothing against WPA-PSK, since it's trivial to disrupt a Wi-Fi
>> network by a number of different means, including simple jamming.

>That's everything against WPA-PSK!! The thing is, chump, one can build
>sound arguments against every man-made thing that has ever created.
>All coins have two sides. Do you know that there are trade-offs in
>engineering designs? Reliability vs. performance, reliability vs. ease
>of use, performance vs. ease of use, or reliability and performance vs
>cost... you name it!!
>
>Don't be ignorant.

Been there; done that. But thanks for your concern.

>Educate yourself and know where you stand on the
>issue.

Learn some manners.

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John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Feb 27, 11:20 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> Learn some manners.
>

Exactly !