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I muddled up wireless broadband access to my home
network and have not yet restored it. Network merely links upstairs PC (XP) to downstairs PC (Win98SE) with router and wireless modem, thus out to Internet. Fiddling with the XP PC and not particuarly knowing what I was doing, I created an Internet Gateway in case it helped. But it did not: and I later managed to delete it. But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Don Phillipson |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:57:51 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >I muddled up wireless broadband access to my home >network and have not yet restored it. Network merely >links upstairs PC (XP) to downstairs PC (Win98SE) >with router and wireless modem, thus out to Internet. > >Fiddling with the XP PC and not particuarly knowing >what I was doing, I created an Internet Gateway in >case it helped. But it did not: and I later managed >to delete it. > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this? The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example, clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to disconnect itself from the Internet. I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play". -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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"Steve Winograd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:57:51 -0500, "Don Phillipson" > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > > > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded > >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband > >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I > >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this? > > The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet > Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example, > clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to > disconnect itself from the Internet. > > I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that > removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by > going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup > > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play". Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to / Windows Setup / Communications it seems /Universal Plug and Play was not installed in the first place. Should it be? Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor (a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)... > > "Steve Winograd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:57:51 -0500, "Don Phillipson" > > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > > > > > > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded > > >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband > > >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I > > >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this? > > > > The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet > > Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example, > > clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to > > disconnect itself from the Internet. > > > > I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that > > removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by > > going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup > > > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play". Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to / Windows Setup / Communications it seems /Universal Plug and Play was not installed in the first place. Should it be? Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor (a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ? BUT I also saw on this menu / Direct Cable Connection had also not been installed (on recent reinstallation of the Win98SE OS after a power failure and crash) -- so I added that and internet access via wireless modem (via router) now is restored. So thank you very much for that. The home wireless network now has vanished, but I dare say I can reload this p.d.q. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:07:43 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >> > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded >> > >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband >> > >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I >> > >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this? >> > >> > The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet >> > Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example, >> > clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to >> > disconnect itself from the Internet. >> > >> > I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that >> > removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by >> > going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup > >> > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play". > > Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to >/ Windows Setup / Communications >it seems /Universal Plug and Play >was not installed in the first place. Should it be? >Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor >(a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ? > >BUT I also saw on this menu / Direct Cable Connection >had also not been installed (on recent reinstallation of the >Win98SE OS after a power failure and crash) -- so I added >that and internet access via wireless modem (via router) >now is restored. So thank you very much for that. The >home wireless network now has vanished, but I dare >say I can reload this p.d.q. I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually fixed it. Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access. Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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"Steve Winograd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)... > I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually > fixed it. > > Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to > each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do > with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access. Oh oh -- ho ho too. But I should be surprised at nothing, after the tangle in which I got on the WinXP. (Former setup used / Network / Broadband to connect, and I failed to recreate this when I tried; but now am up and running via Internet Gateway, from upstairs WinXP wireless ethernet card to downstairs wireless router and out via wireless ISP modem. The Win98 PC is wired to the router, which has always connected it automatically (and visiting cousins just plug their laptops into any free jack.) > Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE > computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the > Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run > that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was. But the sequence did indeed happen as I posted: 1. WinXP / Network / Create New routine. 2. NETSETUP floppy run on WinXP downstairs. The software reported itself unable to complete, but obviously got far enough to effect communication. 3. As posted, I installed that Win / Communiciation / Direct Cable module. . . 4. Because the WinXP Internet Gateway icon appeared to hang the Win98 system I identified via MSCONFIG its supposed association on Win98 with RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\icsdcllt.dll.ICSClient and with SSDPSRV.EXE and unselected both from MSCONFIG . I now find this RUNDLL32 routine does not load and SSDPSRV still does, but I have no icon and no crashes, thus am well satisfied. Because wireless Internet reception is marginal (and the ISP did not know it was possible at this location until I repeatedly badgered them) I can never be sure a long pause or dropped link happens outside the house or between the upstairs and downstairs wireless communicators: (I get them on both PCs ![]() so plan to streamline or strengthen the system if I can: but have more urgent tasks and can never give this more than an hour's time before a synapse blows and the world starts swaying. . . . The essential thing is I now have communication, and am grateful for your encouragement. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Added supplementary note at end:
"Don Phillipson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > "Steve Winograd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually > > fixed it. > > > > Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to > > each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do > > with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access. > > Oh oh -- ho ho too. But I should be surprised at nothing, after > the tangle in which I got on the WinXP. (Former setup used > / Network / Broadband to connect, and I failed to recreate this > when I tried; but now am up and running via Internet Gateway, > from upstairs WinXP wireless ethernet card to downstairs wireless > router and out via wireless ISP modem. The Win98 PC is wired to > the router, which has always connected it automatically (and visiting > cousins just plug their laptops into any free jack.) > > > Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE > > computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the > > Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run > > that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was. > > But the sequence did indeed happen as I posted: > 1. WinXP / Network / Create New routine. > 2. NETSETUP floppy run on WinXP downstairs. The > software reported itself unable to complete, but obviously > got far enough to effect communication. > 3. As posted, I installed that Win / Communiciation / Direct > Cable module. . . > 4. Because the WinXP Internet Gateway icon appeared > to hang the Win98 system I identified via MSCONFIG its supposed > association on Win98 with RUNDLL32.EXE > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\icsdcllt.dll.ICSClient > and with SSDPSRV.EXE and unselected both from MSCONFIG . > I now find this RUNDLL32 routine does not load and SSDPSRV > still does, but I have no icon and no crashes, thus am well satisfied. > > Because wireless Internet reception is marginal (and the ISP > did not know it was possible at this location until I repeatedly > badgered them) I can never be sure a long pause or dropped > link happens outside the house or between the upstairs and > downstairs wireless communicators: (I get them on both PCs ![]() > so plan to streamline or strengthen the system if I can: but > have more urgent tasks and can never give this more than an > hour's time before a synapse blows and the world starts swaying. . . . Cf. streamlining/strengthening. Since wireless broadband service began, the following repeatedy occurs (as today between midnight and 6 a.m.) 1. Electricity outage or something similar (which would reset to defaults the DC power supplies of router and wireless modem.) 2. Internet browser then reports "no connection." 3. I connect via telephone DUN (and for this reason subscribe to the municipal freenet network.) 4. Wireless modem then connects as normal. This is so common (at least 10 times a year) I have got used to it (and use a battery-backed UPS which protects the PC hardware but I still do not understand whythe Internet connections behave thus. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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