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Old 09-01-2007, 05:43 PM
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would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?




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Old 09-01-2007, 05:51 PM
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"Real Ale Drinker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?
>

In a word, no. I have that at home for sending faxes via the pc etc.

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Old 09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Real Ale Drinker <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in
> the phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the
> internet)?


No. Nor should it affect the broadband connection when it *is* connected to
the internet - assuming it's connecting a different computer from the one(s)
using the broadband connection.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:35 PM
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Roger Mills wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Real Ale Drinker <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged
>> in the phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the
>> internet)?

>
> No. Nor should it affect the broadband connection when it *is*
> connected to the internet - assuming it's connecting a different
> computer from the one(s) using the broadband connection.




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Old 09-01-2007, 08:38 PM
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Roger Mills wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Real Ale Drinker <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged
>> in the phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the
>> internet)?

>
> No. Nor should it affect the broadband connection when it *is*
> connected to the internet - assuming it's connecting a different
> computer from the one(s) using the broadband connection.


On thing to make sure of is that you don't pick up any third party
diallers as they can hijack your broadband connectoid, if you are
using a router then this does not normally apply. Ok, only a
possibility but there have been a few visits over the last few years
which have been caused solely by that.


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Old 09-01-2007, 09:19 PM
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On 1 Sep, 17:43, "Real Ale Drinker" <jpd1977ukREMOVET...@gmail.com>
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> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?


Not at All. Dial Up uses normal phone frequencies which are up to
4khz. The microfilter Splits the siginals up with space between the
frequencies to cope with leak. But the you 56k modem siginals will
only travel on the normal frequencies, and the broadband remains at
the higher frequencies. Beware though your modem may not be able to
ouput frequencies obove 4khz but it will recieve them so to prevent
damage to your modem make sure you have a filter on the line.

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Old 09-01-2007, 09:31 PM
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> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?


No. Nor would the presence of a dial-up modem *affect* the broadband
connection.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:42 PM
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"Real Ale Drinker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?
>

In spite of the above replies, see my recent posting " Slow speed -
unexpected cause".--


"For several days, my Sky connection speed dropped from its normal 7.6M to
about 4M.

While it was in this state, I was observing the stats and the snr was about
7dB. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd been trying my dial-up
connection. I'd unplugged the dial-up modem lead from the filtered socket,
but left it sitting in the aperture. When I removed it altogether, the snr
immediately jumped to 14dB! On reboot, my speed was back to normal! I
assume the cable must still have been making slight contact, but still
wouldn't have expected such a drastic effect.

With the speed at its normal high, I plugged the dial-up fully in. The snr
dropped from 8.9dB to 5.8dB.

FWIW."

This was not a one-off fluke.

Allan


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Old 09-02-2007, 05:39 AM
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"allan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Real Ale Drinker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:fbc4tn$49q$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
>> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?
>>

> In spite of the above replies, see my recent posting " Slow speed -
> unexpected cause".--
>
>
> "For several days, my Sky connection speed dropped from its normal 7.6M to
> about 4M.
>
> While it was in this state, I was observing the stats and the snr was
> about
> 7dB. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd been trying my dial-up
> connection. I'd unplugged the dial-up modem lead from the filtered
> socket,
> but left it sitting in the aperture. When I removed it altogether, the
> snr
> immediately jumped to 14dB! On reboot, my speed was back to normal! I
> assume the cable must still have been making slight contact, but still
> wouldn't have expected such a drastic effect.
>
> With the speed at its normal high, I plugged the dial-up fully in. The
> snr
> dropped from 8.9dB to 5.8dB.
>
> FWIW."
>
> This was not a one-off fluke.
>
> Allan
>



Of course you checked this out with another filter?
Filters can fail as can modem/phones and cause a problem when they do so.

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Old 09-02-2007, 11:51 AM
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"Woody" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "allan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Real Ale Drinker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:fbc4tn$49q$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> would a dialup modem effect the broadband connection when plugged in the
>>> phone line (via a micro filter, but not dialled up to the internet)?
>>>

>> In spite of the above replies, see my recent posting " Slow speed -
>> unexpected cause".--
>>
>>
>> "For several days, my Sky connection speed dropped from its normal 7.6M
>> to
>> about 4M.
>>
>> While it was in this state, I was observing the stats and the snr was
>> about
>> 7dB. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd been trying my dial-up
>> connection. I'd unplugged the dial-up modem lead from the filtered
>> socket,
>> but left it sitting in the aperture. When I removed it altogether, the
>> snr
>> immediately jumped to 14dB! On reboot, my speed was back to normal! I
>> assume the cable must still have been making slight contact, but still
>> wouldn't have expected such a drastic effect.
>>
>> With the speed at its normal high, I plugged the dial-up fully in. The
>> snr
>> dropped from 8.9dB to 5.8dB.
>>
>> FWIW."
>>
>> This was not a one-off fluke.
>>
>> Allan
>>

>
>
> Of course you checked this out with another filter?
> Filters can fail as can modem/phones and cause a problem when they do so.
>
> --
> Woody


It's a modular filter built into a double-socket so not able easily to swap.
I just leave the dial-up unplugged in normal use.

Just tried again and it actually killed the line for quite a few seconds
(speed 0 snr 0)but recovered to normal and broadband is actually working
full speed with dial-up plugged in. With lead practically about to drop out
of socket, snr dropped from 7.3 to 6.3. Pushed fully in, it dropped to 5.4
then recovered after few seconds to 7.0 db.

Very weird. Obviously the movement causes glitches, but leaving nearly out
is not good.

Allan


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