Re: XP setup with router

In article <Xns93C982E3E3B4sagittaria@127.0.0.1>, Sagittaria
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I'm buying a router. How do I use the win xp setup wizard to network
>with the router? For instance do I tell each computer that it is
>connected directly to the internet, or that it is connecting through
>another computer (which would be the router)? Any other info I should
>know? TIA!

The Wizard calls a router a "residential gateway". Use that option
when it asks how the computer connects to the Internet.
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup wizard on
one of the xp pc`s .
when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
"select a connection method" click on other and then next,

then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
select: this computer connects to the internet directly or through a
network hub. other computers on my network
also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
and run on the other pc`s.

don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended" warning
from Microsoft,
if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you don`t have a
firewall installed
then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall software.

Brendan



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <Xns93C982E3E3B4sagittaria@127.0.0.1>, Sagittaria
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I'm buying a router. How do I use the win xp setup wizard to network
> >with the router? For instance do I tell each computer that it is
> >connected directly to the internet, or that it is connecting through
> >another computer (which would be the router)? Any other info I should
> >know? TIA!
>
> The Wizard calls a router a "residential gateway". Use that option
> when it asks how the computer connects to the Internet.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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"Brendan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:3f2bbd81$(E-Mail Removed):

> are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup
> wizard on one of the xp pc`s .
> when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
> "select a connection method" click on other and then next,
>
> then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
> select: this computer connects to the internet directly or
> through a network hub. other computers on my network
> also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
> and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
> and run on the other pc`s.
>
> don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended"
> warning from Microsoft,
> if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you
> don`t have a firewall installed
> then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall
> software.
>
> Brendan

Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.

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In article <Xns93CBDCC064889sagittaria@127.0.0.1>, Sagittaria
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"Brendan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>news:3f2bbd81$(E-Mail Removed):
>> are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup
>> wizard on one of the xp pc`s .
>> when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
>> "select a connection method" click on other and then next,
>>
>> then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
>> select: this computer connects to the internet directly or
>> through a network hub. other computers on my network
>> also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
>> and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
>> and run on the other pc`s.
>>
>> don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended"
>> warning from Microsoft,
>> if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you
>> don`t have a firewall installed
>> then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall
>> software.
>>
>> Brendan
>
>Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
>recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
>gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
>your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.

Yes, there's a difference: you have a residential gateway (broadband
router), not a network hub, and those are entirely different types of
devices. The "network hub" Wizard option doesn't fit your setup and
will block file and printer sharing with other computers on your
network.

--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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I also have a broadband router and a my network setup this way
I only had to disable the firewall on the xp pc and make various folders
shared on all pc`s
on the network and it works fine both sharing files and internet access.
just make sure you have a good firewall installed!!!.
Brendan

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <Xns93CBDCC064889sagittaria@127.0.0.1>, Sagittaria
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >"Brendan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >news:3f2bbd81$(E-Mail Removed):
> >> are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup
> >> wizard on one of the xp pc`s .
> >> when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
> >> "select a connection method" click on other and then next,
> >>
> >> then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
> >> select: this computer connects to the internet directly or
> >> through a network hub. other computers on my network
> >> also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
> >> and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
> >> and run on the other pc`s.
> >>
> >> don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended"
> >> warning from Microsoft,
> >> if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you
> >> don`t have a firewall installed
> >> then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall
> >> software.
> >>
> >> Brendan
> >
> >Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
> >recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
> >gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
> >your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.
>
> Yes, there's a difference: you have a residential gateway (broadband
> router), not a network hub, and those are entirely different types of
> devices. The "network hub" Wizard option doesn't fit your setup and
> will block file and printer sharing with other computers on your
> network.
>
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

I don`t know, since i`ve setup my network my download speed is now very fast
in windows task manager>networking the link speed was 10 mpbs now it`s
100mpbs
try http://www.dslreports.com/ click on tools and speed tests then try
various hardware setups
and see what you get.
Brendan

"Sagittaria" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns93CBDCC064889sagittaria@127.0.0.1...
> "Brendan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:3f2bbd81$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup
> > wizard on one of the xp pc`s .
> > when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
> > "select a connection method" click on other and then next,
> >
> > then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
> > select: this computer connects to the internet directly or
> > through a network hub. other computers on my network
> > also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
> > and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
> > and run on the other pc`s.
> >
> > don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended"
> > warning from Microsoft,
> > if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you
> > don`t have a firewall installed
> > then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall
> > software.
> >
> > Brendan
>
> Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
> recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
> gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
> your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.
>
> --
> ---->Sagittaria<----
>
> It is a poor day if one hasn't laughed.

Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:

> In article <Xns93CBDCC064889sagittaria@127.0.0.1>, Sagittaria
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>"Brendan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>news:3f2bbd81$(E-Mail Removed):
>>> are all the windows 98 or later, if so run the network setup
>>> wizard on one of the xp pc`s .
>>> when it starts keep clicking next until you get to the
>>> "select a connection method" click on other and then next,
>>>
>>> then you get a screen "other internet connection methods..."
>>> select: this computer connects to the internet directly or
>>> through a network hub. other computers on my network
>>> also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
>>> and click next and next again etc then copy to a floppy disk
>>> and run on the other pc`s.
>>>
>>> don`t worry about the" network configuration is not recommended"
>>> warning from Microsoft,
>>> if you have a good firewall installed(mcfee or Norton) if you
>>> don`t have a firewall installed
>>> then do what microsoft says!!!. or just buy good firewall
>>> software.
>>>
>>> Brendan
>>
>>Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
>>recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
>>gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
>>your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.
>
> Yes, there's a difference: you have a residential gateway (broadband
> router), not a network hub, and those are entirely different types of
> devices. The "network hub" Wizard option doesn't fit your setup and
> will block file and printer sharing with other computers on your
> network.


Steve....

I now have 2 PCs, both XPPro, connected via a Netgear Homephoneline
network. I cannot run external wiring in my apartment. This works really
great with top speed. My host PC, which now needs to be on all the time
for the other to connect, gets to my DSL with a Speed Touch Home Pro
using enternet.
Can I re-configure to make my STH into a router and instead of
connecting the phoneline network as it is now, connect both machines
into the STH for a real always on configuration, so that the host
machine does not need to be on and no dial up necessary?

If so, how? Thanks in advance....

burris

In article <3f2d0017$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Brendan"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
>>>recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
>>>gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
>>>your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.
>>
>>Yes, there's a difference: you have a residential gateway (broadband
>>router), not a network hub, and those are entirely different types of
>>devices. The "network hub" Wizard option doesn't fit your setup and
>>will block file and printer sharing with other computers on your
>>network.
>
>I also have a broadband router and a my network setup this way
>I only had to disable the firewall on the xp pc and make various folders
>shared on all pc`s
>on the network and it works fine both sharing files and internet access.
> just make sure you have a good firewall installed!!!.
>Brendan

You found the right solution, Brendan. The Wizard enabled the xp
firewall because you told it that your computers connect directly to
the Internet. They don't, so you had to disable the firewall to allow
file sharing.

With a broadband router, "residential gateway" is the right Wizard
option. It disables the firewall and automatically sets up file
sharing.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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In article <iJ7Xa.57$(E-Mail Removed)>, burris
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve....
>
>I now have 2 PCs, both XPPro, connected via a Netgear Homephoneline
>network. I cannot run external wiring in my apartment. This works really
>great with top speed. My host PC, which now needs to be on all the time
>for the other to connect, gets to my DSL with a Speed Touch Home Pro
>using enternet.
>Can I re-configure to make my STH into a router and instead of
>connecting the phoneline network as it is now, connect both machines
>into the STH for a real always on configuration, so that the host
>machine does not need to be on and no dial up necessary?
>
>If so, how? Thanks in advance....
>
>burris

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by "enternet". Do you mean
"Ethernet"? Do you mean that your ISP is called Enternet? Do you
mean that your computer uses the EnterNet broadband client software
shown here?

http://www.efficient.com/enternet.html

If it uses EnterNet software, you have a PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet)
connection. PPPoE simulates a dial-up connection, and there's no way
to eliminate the dial-up.

I assume that "STH" refers to your Speed Touch Home Pro DSL modem.

Unless the STH has a phoneline networking capability built in, you
can't connect it directly to your phoneline network.

If the STH has an Ethernet output, you can connect it to a cable/DSL
phoneline router to share your DSL connection over the phoneline
network, eliminating the need for an Internet Connection Sharing host
computer. Here's an example:

http://www.netgear.com/products/prod...dID=98&view=hm

However, it's very expensive, and you'd need to make sure that it's
compatible with your phoneline networking equipment.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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I did`t know that thanks for the info!!
Brendan
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <3f2d0017$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Brendan"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>Thanks for the reply. I already set it up using Steve's
> >>>recommendation of "this computer connects through a residential
> >>>gateway" but now I'm wondering what the difference might be using
> >>>your method, if there is any difference in how it gets set up.
> >>
> >>Yes, there's a difference: you have a residential gateway (broadband
> >>router), not a network hub, and those are entirely different types of
> >>devices. The "network hub" Wizard option doesn't fit your setup and
> >>will block file and printer sharing with other computers on your
> >>network.
> >
> >I also have a broadband router and a my network setup this way
> >I only had to disable the firewall on the xp pc and make various folders
> >shared on all pc`s
> >on the network and it works fine both sharing files and internet access.
> > just make sure you have a good firewall installed!!!.
> >Brendan
>
> You found the right solution, Brendan. The Wizard enabled the xp
> firewall because you told it that your computers connect directly to
> the Internet. They don't, so you had to disable the firewall to allow
> file sharing.
>
> With a broadband router, "residential gateway" is the right Wizard
> option. It disables the firewall and automatically sets up file
> sharing.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
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