can't see WinME on XP

I have a WinMe pc (configured as ICS host, btw) with a peer-to-peer XP.
Internet sharing works fine. I can access XP's files from the WInMe fine
too. But the WinMe doesn't show up on the XP's "View Workgroup Computers".
The workgroup name IS the same (MSHOME) on both computers. What could be
the problem? Also.. lately, I seem to have lost access to the
shared-printer that was configured on the XP.. but that is maybe an
unrelated issue?







Ogg

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 22:32:38 -0400, Ogg wrote:

> I have a WinMe pc (configured as ICS host, btw) with a peer-to-peer XP.
> Internet sharing works fine. I can access XP's files from the WInMe fine
> too. But the WinMe doesn't show up on the XP's "View Workgroup Computers".
> The workgroup name IS the same (MSHOME) on both computers. What could be
> the problem? Also.. lately, I seem to have lost access to the
> shared-printer that was configured on the XP.. but that is maybe an
> unrelated issue?

Could be a browsemaster issue. With Windows ME as the ICS host, that
computer is probably always on; and WinME wants to be the browsemaster by
default. I don't know how I would fix that, where WinME is also the
Internet host; normally I would suggest disabling the WinME browsemaster
setting, and let the Windows XP system act as the browsemaster.

OTOH, I wouldn't use Windows ICS if I could run a router, instead. A
hardware box as a dedicated NAT device is much more elegant than a software
kludge on a GP computer.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Hello, N.!
You wrote on Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:12:09 -0700:

NM> OTOH, I wouldn't use Windows ICS if I could run a router, instead. A
NM> hardware box as a dedicated NAT device is much more elegant than a
NM> software kludge on a GP computer.

I have dialup. ICS is the only option right now. I've worked it this way
for almost 6 years now, no problem. I have a di-713p wireless router that
supports a dialup modem, but the wired-ports don't work. I could
theoretically get USB wireless adapters for each computer, but I really want
my computers hardwire-networked.

Thanks for your other suggestion regarding Browsemaster. I see that setting
in WinME, no problem. Meanwhile I disabled it; it was previously on
Automatic. At next boot up we will see what happens. Where might the
equivalent to Browsemaster be on the XP pc?

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 01:15:20 -0400, Ogg wrote:

> Hello, N.!
> You wrote on Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:12:09 -0700:

>> NM> OTOH, I wouldn't use Windows ICS if I could run a router, instead. A
>> NM> hardware box as a dedicated NAT device is much more elegant than a
>> NM> software kludge on a GP computer.

> I have dialup. ICS is the only option right now. I've worked it this way
> for almost 6 years now, no problem. I have a di-713p wireless router that
> supports a dialup modem, but the wired-ports don't work. I could
> theoretically get USB wireless adapters for each computer, but I really want
> my computers hardwire-networked.

So the router is broken? Ah, unfortunate. And probably out of the question
to buy a replacement. There are at least three models that I know of, from
D-Link, Netgear, and SMC, which support a dial-up modem.

> Thanks for your other suggestion regarding Browsemaster. I see that setting
> in WinME, no problem. Meanwhile I disabled it; it was previously on
> Automatic. At next boot up we will see what happens. Where might the
> equivalent to Browsemaster be on the XP pc?

I don't use Windows XP, but I believe it should similarly situated, within
the Properties for File and Printer sharing. In any case, I would expect
that disabling the Windows ME browsemaster may work. However, with the
Windows ME comptuer hosting the ICS connection, I have no experience to say
if that is so, or what.

If things are still broken, maybe setting the Windows ME browsemast to be
always on is a possibility, instead; while disabling it on the Windows XP
computer.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Hello, N.!
You wrote on Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:30:32 -0700:

??>> I have dialup. ICS is the only option right now. I've worked it this
??>> way for almost 6 years now, no problem. I have a di-713p wireless
??>> router that supports a dialup modem, but the wired-ports don't work.
??>> I could theoretically get USB wireless adapters for each computer, but
??>> I really want my computers hardwire-networked.

NM> So the router is broken? Ah, unfortunate. And probably out of the
NM> question to buy a replacement. There are at least three models that I
NM> know of, from D-Link, Netgear, and SMC, which support a dial-up modem.

The router and the com port to the modem still works on the D-Link 713p
(confirmed by a wireless laptop). That is why I thought I could still use
it purely as a wireless device only - as a "cheap" alternative. Even if I
buy two wireless cards for the 2 computers, I would save about $50 to $80
over a brand new router that supports dialup. Speed of file sharing between
my computers is not critical. And I'd probably never notice any significant
performace problem with the 713p's wireless "speed" over a dialup.


NM> If things are still broken, maybe setting the Windows ME browsemast to
NM> be always on is a possibility, instead; while disabling it on the
NM> Windows XP computer.

I checked the Browser Master status on the XP. It's set to automatic.
Always was. I never played with XP's services before. Meanwhile... I reset
the WinME's Browser back to automatic..

I have excatly the same problem on a network linked to a Draytek router with
a Netgear Rangemax WPN802 Wireless Access Point and WPN511 PCMCIA card..
I can access the XP machine fine from ME laptop, but not the other way
round. machine. If I switch to using a wired network connection with a
D-Link DFE-650 card it works fine.

I have now managed to get to see the ME laptop from the XP machine by much
messing around with settings and changing the logon to using Windows Logon,
but cannot access any files, just as File and Printer sharing was not enabled
(it is though).

I have tried the Browser Master settings but without any success. It seems
like it is a problem with the wireless connection in some way. Any other
suggestions??

David

"Ogg" wrote:

> Hello, N.!
> You wrote on Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:30:32 -0700:
>
> ??>> I have dialup. ICS is the only option right now. I've worked it this
> ??>> way for almost 6 years now, no problem. I have a di-713p wireless
> ??>> router that supports a dialup modem, but the wired-ports don't work.
> ??>> I could theoretically get USB wireless adapters for each computer, but
> ??>> I really want my computers hardwire-networked.
>
> NM> So the router is broken? Ah, unfortunate. And probably out of the
> NM> question to buy a replacement. There are at least three models that I
> NM> know of, from D-Link, Netgear, and SMC, which support a dial-up modem.
>
> The router and the com port to the modem still works on the D-Link 713p
> (confirmed by a wireless laptop). That is why I thought I could still use
> it purely as a wireless device only - as a "cheap" alternative. Even if I
> buy two wireless cards for the 2 computers, I would save about $50 to $80
> over a brand new router that supports dialup. Speed of file sharing between
> my computers is not critical. And I'd probably never notice any significant
> performace problem with the 713p's wireless "speed" over a dialup.
>
>
> NM> If things are still broken, maybe setting the Windows ME browsemast to
> NM> be always on is a possibility, instead; while disabling it on the
> NM> Windows XP computer.
>
> I checked the Browser Master status on the XP. It's set to automatic.
> Always was. I never played with XP's services before. Meanwhile... I reset
> the WinME's Browser back to automatic..
>
>
>
>
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