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Old 07-31-2007, 06:55 PM
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I have several hundred ripped movies on DVD-R medium. I would like to
keep these for many years to show my sprogs etc

I know that optical media cannot be relied upon for more than a few
years.

What should I back them up onto for longest life ? Tape ?



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Old 08-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Dave Ryman
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blackboab <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:1185904502.673215.157080
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> I have several hundred ripped movies on DVD-R medium. I would like to
> keep these for many years to show my sprogs etc
>
> I know that optical media cannot be relied upon for more than a few
> years.
>
> What should I back them up onto for longest life ? Tape ?
>
>


Try buying the original copys on DVD: They should last much longer.

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Old 08-01-2007, 06:05 PM
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In message <Xns997F75B5DDDE0daverymanhotmailcom@80.5.182.99 >, Dave Ryman
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>Try buying the original copys on DVD: They should last much longer.
>

Interesting question though, I have loads of edited DV footage from just
before my daughter's birth to date, 3.5 years and counting and I've been
wondering similar things.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:37 AM
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In article <HfU5T+(E-Mail Removed)>, Clint Sharp
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> In message <Xns997F75B5DDDE0daverymanhotmailcom@80.5.182.99 >, Dave Ryman
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >Try buying the original copys on DVD: They should last much longer.
> >

> Interesting question though, I have loads of edited DV footage from just
> before my daughter's birth to date, 3.5 years and counting and I've been
> wondering similar things.
>

Make a copy every few years onto whatever the current mass-storage
medium is, while you still have a drive that can read the previous
version. I suppose that ideally you should be checking the media every
so often to see what the error correction rate is, but any sample you
check may not be representative of the worst example and just by reading
the disks you could be causing additional errors, and you should be
checking that the drive still functions but each spin-up is one step
closer to failure.
Transfer the data to papyrus scrolls and store them in clay pots in a
cave in a desert somewhere.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:04 AM
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> Transfer the data to papyrus scrolls and store them in clay pots in a
> cave in a desert somewhere.


yawn :

I think the best solution is a large external hard drive.
They can be bought for 60 pounds (120 dollars ) for 500 GB.

That should - hopefully - last 5 to 10 years.



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Old 08-02-2007, 11:03 AM
Rob Morley
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In article <(E-Mail Removed) om>,
blackboab
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> > Transfer the data to papyrus scrolls and store them in clay pots in a
> > cave in a desert somewhere.

>
> yawn :
>
> I think the best solution is a large external hard drive.
> They can be bought for 60 pounds (120 dollars ) for 500 GB.
>
> That should - hopefully - last 5 to 10 years.
>

Putting all your eggs in one basket probably isn't the smartest move
when it comes to reliable backup solutions. At least with removable
media you have the chance to try different hardware rather than running
straight to a data recovery specialist.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:18 PM
Clint Sharp
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In message <(E-Mail Removed)> , Rob Morley
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>In article <(E-Mail Removed) om>,
>blackboab
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>>
>> > Transfer the data to papyrus scrolls and store them in clay pots in a
>> > cave in a desert somewhere.

But that doesn't work reliably, you'd have to be able to factor in
sandstorms, global warming, flooding (hey, if the ice caps melt..)
Definitely too impermanent and any transcription errors could make
recovery difficult. Papyrus is expensive and have you any idea how much
of it I would need for 60 hours of DV footage?
>>
>> yawn :
>>
>> I think the best solution is a large external hard drive.
>> They can be bought for 60 pounds (120 dollars ) for 500 GB.

Already got one, I've got almost 3TB of storage now.
>>
>> That should - hopefully - last 5 to 10 years.
>>

>Putting all your eggs in one basket probably isn't the smartest move
>when it comes to reliable backup solutions. At least with removable
>media you have the chance to try different hardware rather than running
>straight to a data recovery specialist.

Surely the point is that the external disk is taken off site so there
are 2 copies of the data? Apart from that everything you say is valid.
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