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Hello All,
I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this disasterous network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap owners. I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some of the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so if you can please be kind. There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent learning experience for many here from the pros. First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how do I access the main Cisco 1723 router? Lets start there. Sincere thanks ahead of time Joe Joe |
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Hello Joe,
Joe wrote: > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how > do I access the main Cisco 1723 router? that's the kind of questions, where are the documentations and tools from the hardware maker of the router So you should sit down and take the time to study that. Ususally these things have either an own webserver or a command line based console. The last can either be reached with a kind of telnet client via LAN or via direct cable connection. For details for your router - you should be able to find and download the manual. Best greetings from Germany Olaf |
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Hi Joe,
If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway address, so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this doc should help you... http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml Coraleigh Miller "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...> Hello All, > > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this disasterous > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap > owners. > > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some of > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so if > you > can please be kind. > > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent > learning experience for many here from the pros. > > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how do I > access the main Cisco 1723 router? > > Lets start there. > > Sincere thanks ahead of time > Joe |
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Hello Olaf,
I have tried this.There is no manual for this that I can see. Everytime I try to get the manual from a link on a search engine it takes me to a Cisco private page that needs to have a password. Also there is two types of this same router.(which baffles me) One is the long green steel version and one is the smaller black plastic compact version. However I can try again to find out how. May I go beyond the routers now? Thanks Joe "Olaf Engelke [MVP Windows Server]" wrote: > Hello Joe, > Joe wrote: > > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how > > do I access the main Cisco 1723 router? > > that's the kind of questions, where are the documentations and tools from > the hardware maker of the router So you should sit down and take the time to > study that. > Ususally these things have either an own webserver or a command line based > console. The last can either be reached with a kind of telnet client via LAN > or via direct cable connection. > For details for your router - you should be able to find and download the > manual. > Best greetings from Germany > Olaf > |
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Hello Mr. Miller,
Thanks for the help, Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's of this router are: External: 66.237.xxx.142 Subnet is:255.255.255.248 Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the first NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the xxx.201 I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 There are other routers that are in the same way. Thanks Joe "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > Hi Joe, > > If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and > depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway address, > so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the > router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this doc > should help you... > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml > > Coraleigh Miller > > > "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...> > Hello All, > > > > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this disasterous > > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap > > owners. > > > > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some of > > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so if > > you > > can please be kind. > > > > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent > > learning experience for many here from the pros. > > > > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how do I > > access the main Cisco 1723 router? > > > > Lets start there. > > > > Sincere thanks ahead of time > > Joe > > > |
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Sounds like abit of a mess youve got there. :-)
You can try using the Security Device Manager (SDM), "an intuitive, Web-based device management tool" for the Cisco 830 series through Cisco 7301 routers, hopefully that will discover your router and allow you to manage it. http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/sdm Coraleigh Miller (BTW im a girl :-) ) "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:9AFA255A-7493-4645-88A6-(E-Mail Removed)... > Hello Mr. Miller, > > Thanks for the help, > > Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's of > this router are: > > External: 66.237.xxx.142 > Subnet is:255.255.255.248 > Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 > > So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the first > NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. > > However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the > xxx.201 > I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 > > There are other routers that are in the same way. > > Thanks > Joe > > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > >> Hi Joe, >> >> If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and >> depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway >> address, >> so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the >> router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this >> doc >> should help you... >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml >> >> Coraleigh Miller >> >> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...>> > Hello All, >> > >> > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this >> > disasterous >> > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap >> > owners. >> > >> > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some >> > of >> > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so >> > if >> > you >> > can please be kind. >> > >> > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent >> > learning experience for many here from the pros. >> > >> > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how >> > do I >> > access the main Cisco 1723 router? >> > >> > Lets start there. >> > >> > Sincere thanks ahead of time >> > Joe >> >> >> |
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Failing that, you might need to go command line with Cisco's IOS and a
directly connected PC's Terminal software... http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...d1b.html#13034 You will need the "Console Cable", a blue RJ45->DB9 cable which came with the router to connect in this way. Coraleigh Miller "Coraleigh Miller" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > Sounds like abit of a mess youve got there. :-) > > You can try using the Security Device Manager (SDM), "an intuitive, > Web-based device management tool" for the Cisco 830 series through Cisco > 7301 routers, hopefully that will discover your router and allow you to > manage it. > http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/sdm > > > Coraleigh Miller (BTW im a girl :-) ) > > > "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:9AFA255A-7493-4645-88A6-(E-Mail Removed)... >> Hello Mr. Miller, >> >> Thanks for the help, >> >> Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's of >> this router are: >> >> External: 66.237.xxx.142 >> Subnet is:255.255.255.248 >> Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 >> >> So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the first >> NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. >> >> However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the >> xxx.201 >> I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 >> >> There are other routers that are in the same way. >> >> Thanks >> Joe >> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe, >>> >>> If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and >>> depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway >>> address, >>> so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the >>> router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this >>> doc >>> should help you... >>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml >>> >>> Coraleigh Miller >>> >>> >>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>> news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...>>> > Hello All, >>> > >>> > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this >>> > disasterous >>> > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap >>> > owners. >>> > >>> > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some >>> > of >>> > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so >>> > if >>> > you >>> > can please be kind. >>> > >>> > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent >>> > learning experience for many here from the pros. >>> > >>> > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how >>> > do I >>> > access the main Cisco 1723 router? >>> > >>> > Lets start there. >>> > >>> > Sincere thanks ahead of time >>> > Joe >>> >>> >>> > > |
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Hello Coraleigh (cool name btw)
Well you are right. There are more nooks an crannies here. I called the ISP today who provided the router and they had no trouble accesing the router. Now, this is how I got the IP's because they told me what they were. This network is functional but a disaster. To add to the mix there is a ppp to another building that I just got back up and running. Ok, Let's remove the accessing the routers because this might be trivial and then I can figure this out later. Ready for some mind twistin' netwoking here <grin> (I'm burnt) Ok, the primary server is a Server 2000 Box and the first NIC is dialed in like this. IP's 10.222.221.1 and in the advanced section added IP of 66.236.xxx.202 Subnets:255.255.255.0 and in the advanced section added 255.255.255.248 Gateways: 10.222.221.254 Metric 1 Now in the advanced section added gateways of 10.222.221.249 metric 1 66.236.xxx.201 metric 1 Second NIC on the same server Local Network Card 2 IP: 10.222.221.99 Subnet 255.255.255.0 Gway:10.222.221.254 Nothing more on this box. Now I know why they need the multipla gateways but I am unsure as to how they tied them in. I do not know at this time where the 10.222.221.249 is? Would this be a router? I know the others. The strange part is this. All PC's in the main building have the Default Gway set to 10.222.221.254 and this is a completely different router than the main router that I was referring to. The more I type the more I think this cannot be solved here. I hope not. I called the ISP again and told them to please come and do a " Tag and Locate" first. any feedback on this? Thanks Joe "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > Sounds like abit of a mess youve got there. :-) > > You can try using the Security Device Manager (SDM), "an intuitive, > Web-based device management tool" for the Cisco 830 series through Cisco > 7301 routers, hopefully that will discover your router and allow you to > manage it. > http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/sdm > > > Coraleigh Miller (BTW im a girl :-) ) > > > "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:9AFA255A-7493-4645-88A6-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Hello Mr. Miller, > > > > Thanks for the help, > > > > Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's of > > this router are: > > > > External: 66.237.xxx.142 > > Subnet is:255.255.255.248 > > Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 > > > > So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the first > > NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. > > > > However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the > > xxx.201 > > I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 > > > > There are other routers that are in the same way. > > > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > > > >> Hi Joe, > >> > >> If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and > >> depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway > >> address, > >> so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the > >> router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this > >> doc > >> should help you... > >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml > >> > >> Coraleigh Miller > >> > >> > >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...> >> > Hello All, > >> > > >> > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this > >> > disasterous > >> > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and cheap > >> > owners. > >> > > >> > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for some > >> > of > >> > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here so > >> > if > >> > you > >> > can please be kind. > >> > > >> > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an excellent > >> > learning experience for many here from the pros. > >> > > >> > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server how > >> > do I > >> > access the main Cisco 1723 router? > >> > > >> > Lets start there. > >> > > >> > Sincere thanks ahead of time > >> > Joe > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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A tag and locate would be fantastic. :-)
Have you found any pcs using the 10.222.221.249 gateway, outta curiosity? I would think that this would be another router configured perhaps to assist in load balancing (since they both use Metric 1) your internal traffic, with the 10.222.221.254. But if you cannot physically find another router which could be it, then its possible they used a server or desktop for it. Good luck!! Coraleigh "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:7351708B-BFB5-4F41-B1A3-(E-Mail Removed)... > Hello Coraleigh (cool name btw) > > Well you are right. There are more nooks an crannies here. I called the > ISP > today who provided the router and they had no trouble accesing the router. > Now, this is how I got the IP's because they told me what they were. > > This network is functional but a disaster. To add to the mix there is a > ppp > to another building that I just got back up and running. Ok, Let's remove > the > accessing the routers because this might be trivial and then I can figure > this out later. > > Ready for some mind twistin' netwoking here <grin> (I'm burnt) > > Ok, the primary server is a Server 2000 Box and the first NIC is dialed in > like this. > > IP's 10.222.221.1 and in the advanced section added IP of 66.236.xxx.202 > Subnets:255.255.255.0 and in the advanced section added 255.255.255.248 > Gateways: 10.222.221.254 Metric 1 Now in the advanced section added > gateways > of 10.222.221.249 metric 1 > 66.236.xxx.201 metric 1 > > Second NIC on the same server > Local Network Card 2 > > IP: 10.222.221.99 > Subnet 255.255.255.0 > Gway:10.222.221.254 > > Nothing more on this box. > > Now I know why they need the multipla gateways but I am unsure as to how > they tied them in. > > I do not know at this time where the 10.222.221.249 is? Would this be a > router? > > I know the others. > > > The strange part is this. All PC's in the main building have the Default > Gway set to 10.222.221.254 and this is a completely different router than > the > main router that I was referring to. > > The more I type the more I think this cannot be solved here. I hope not. > > I called the ISP again and told them to please come and do a " Tag and > Locate" first. > > any feedback on this? > > Thanks > Joe > > > > > > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > >> Sounds like abit of a mess youve got there. :-) >> >> You can try using the Security Device Manager (SDM), "an intuitive, >> Web-based device management tool" for the Cisco 830 series through Cisco >> 7301 routers, hopefully that will discover your router and allow you to >> manage it. >> http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/sdm >> >> >> Coraleigh Miller (BTW im a girl :-) ) >> >> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:9AFA255A-7493-4645-88A6-(E-Mail Removed)... >> > Hello Mr. Miller, >> > >> > Thanks for the help, >> > >> > Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's >> > of >> > this router are: >> > >> > External: 66.237.xxx.142 >> > Subnet is:255.255.255.248 >> > Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 >> > >> > So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the >> > first >> > NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. >> > >> > However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the >> > xxx.201 >> > I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 >> > >> > There are other routers that are in the same way. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Joe >> > >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> >> >> If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and >> >> depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway >> >> address, >> >> so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the >> >> router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this >> >> doc >> >> should help you... >> >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml >> >> >> >> Coraleigh Miller >> >> >> >> >> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...>> >> > Hello All, >> >> > >> >> > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this >> >> > disasterous >> >> > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and >> >> > cheap >> >> > owners. >> >> > >> >> > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for >> >> > some >> >> > of >> >> > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here >> >> > so >> >> > if >> >> > you >> >> > can please be kind. >> >> > >> >> > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an >> >> > excellent >> >> > learning experience for many here from the pros. >> >> > >> >> > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server >> >> > how >> >> > do I >> >> > access the main Cisco 1723 router? >> >> > >> >> > Lets start there. >> >> > >> >> > Sincere thanks ahead of time >> >> > Joe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> |
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Hi Coraleigh
Well, no, This is why I do not know where it is. No PC or router that I know of used or uses this gateway. In the other building there is a better setup but it ties into this main buiding that is a mess. In the closet room is another Cisco steel version rack mount that has to be a Default gateway of 10.222.223.1 All PC's in this buiding have this gateway. (Still cannot access this router either) This particular building is not what I am so concerned about because actually it is "cut and dry" a bunch of PC's and a set of drops in the walls and the main router with managed switches mounted with the router. This is what I am thinking.... The afore mentioned building with the 10.222.223.1 tidy setup is set on a PPP to the main building through BellSouth CO (Central Office) and into another Cisco 1700 steel rack mount. Wala! I think this is the 10.249 because you wouldn't need it on a PC or server. Just for a connection as a default gateway to access the other routers and PC's.(it seems) Thoughts??? Thanks Coraleigh Joseph "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > A tag and locate would be fantastic. :-) > > Have you found any pcs using the 10.222.221.249 gateway, outta curiosity? > > I would think that this would be another router configured perhaps to assist > in load balancing (since they both use Metric 1) your internal traffic, with > the 10.222.221.254. But if you cannot physically find another router which > could be it, then its possible they used a server or desktop for it. > > Good luck!! > Coraleigh > > > "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:7351708B-BFB5-4F41-B1A3-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Hello Coraleigh (cool name btw) > > > > Well you are right. There are more nooks an crannies here. I called the > > ISP > > today who provided the router and they had no trouble accesing the router. > > Now, this is how I got the IP's because they told me what they were. > > > > This network is functional but a disaster. To add to the mix there is a > > ppp > > to another building that I just got back up and running. Ok, Let's remove > > the > > accessing the routers because this might be trivial and then I can figure > > this out later. > > > > Ready for some mind twistin' netwoking here <grin> (I'm burnt) > > > > Ok, the primary server is a Server 2000 Box and the first NIC is dialed in > > like this. > > > > IP's 10.222.221.1 and in the advanced section added IP of 66.236.xxx.202 > > Subnets:255.255.255.0 and in the advanced section added 255.255.255.248 > > Gateways: 10.222.221.254 Metric 1 Now in the advanced section added > > gateways > > of 10.222.221.249 metric 1 > > 66.236.xxx.201 metric 1 > > > > Second NIC on the same server > > Local Network Card 2 > > > > IP: 10.222.221.99 > > Subnet 255.255.255.0 > > Gway:10.222.221.254 > > > > Nothing more on this box. > > > > Now I know why they need the multipla gateways but I am unsure as to how > > they tied them in. > > > > I do not know at this time where the 10.222.221.249 is? Would this be a > > router? > > > > I know the others. > > > > > > The strange part is this. All PC's in the main building have the Default > > Gway set to 10.222.221.254 and this is a completely different router than > > the > > main router that I was referring to. > > > > The more I type the more I think this cannot be solved here. I hope not. > > > > I called the ISP again and told them to please come and do a " Tag and > > Locate" first. > > > > any feedback on this? > > > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > > > >> Sounds like abit of a mess youve got there. :-) > >> > >> You can try using the Security Device Manager (SDM), "an intuitive, > >> Web-based device management tool" for the Cisco 830 series through Cisco > >> 7301 routers, hopefully that will discover your router and allow you to > >> manage it. > >> http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/sdm > >> > >> > >> Coraleigh Miller (BTW im a girl :-) ) > >> > >> > >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news:9AFA255A-7493-4645-88A6-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > Hello Mr. Miller, > >> > > >> > Thanks for the help, > >> > > >> > Yes it has an IP however I cannot access it like this - I tried. IP's > >> > of > >> > this router are: > >> > > >> > External: 66.237.xxx.142 > >> > Subnet is:255.255.255.248 > >> > Gateway:66.236.xxx.201 > >> > > >> > So the first uable address would be xxx.202 and it is. It is on the > >> > first > >> > NIC on the Server 2000 box along with 10.222.221.1. > >> > > >> > However I cannot access this router via the External IP nor from the > >> > xxx.201 > >> > I can RDP into the server at IP 66.236.xxx.202 > >> > > >> > There are other routers that are in the same way. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Joe > >> > > >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Joe, > >> >> > >> >> If it has an ip assigned (as the main router it probably does), and > >> >> depending on how configured the network is, it might be the gateway > >> >> address, > >> >> so you should be able to use the ip via your web browser to reach the > >> >> router. If there is a password on the router that you dont know, this > >> >> doc > >> >> should help you... > >> >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...80094773.shtml > >> >> > >> >> Coraleigh Miller > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> news 5C31FC5-4B5F-4149-8816-(E-Mail Removed)...> >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > I recently was asked to step in a figure out and correct this > >> >> > disasterous > >> >> > network that is the compilation of many long gone companies and > >> >> > cheap > >> >> > owners. > >> >> > > >> >> > I have narrowed some of it down but I will need a little help for > >> >> > some > >> >> > of > >> >> > the things that I am not familiar with. I got a learning curve here > >> >> > so > >> >> > if > >> >> > you > >> >> > can please be kind. > >> >> > > >> >> > There is a lot to accomplish but I do think this would be an > >> >> > excellent > >> >> > learning experience for many here from the pros. > >> >> > > >> >> > First, from inside the network on the Server 2000 Terninal server > >> >> > how > >> >> > do I > >> >> > access the main Cisco 1723 router? > >> >> > > >> >> > Lets start there. > >> >> > > >> >> > Sincere thanks ahead of time > >> >> > Joe > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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