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as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter name. Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration' with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. How can I get my network adapter name to show up so that I can release & renew the ip address? David |
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In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, David says...
> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up > as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter name. > Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration' > with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. > This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a DHCP server. Addresses in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically assigned when a DHCP server can't be found. > How can I get my network adapter name to show up so that I > can release & renew the ip address? I would start by checking the connection between the computer and the network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, cable, or NIC could be the problem. -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their ips from the modem but aren't. The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect to the internet (hence this message). The other computer can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the internet. Both computers are showing their network card as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of 192.etc. It would appear therefore that something is preventing these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it here.) Thanks David >-----Original Message----- >In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, David says... > >> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up >> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter name. >> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration' >> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. > >> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. > >It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a DHCP server. Addresses >in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically assigned when a DHCP server >can't be found. > >> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so that I >> can release & renew the ip address? > >I would start by checking the connection between the computer and the >network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, cable, or NIC could be >the problem. > >-- >Norman >~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >. > |
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David"
<(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > Norman > > It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an > adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their > ips from the modem but aren't. > > The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network > emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect > to the internet (hence this message). The other computer > can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the > internet. Both computers are showing their network card > as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of > 192.etc. > > It would appear therefore that something is preventing > these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any > ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question > to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it > here.) > > Thanks > > David > >>-----Original Message----- >>In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, > David says... >> >>> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up >>> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter > name. >>> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration' >>> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. >> >>> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. >> >>It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a DHCP > server. Addresses >>in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically assigned > when a DHCP server >>can't be found. >> >>> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so > that I >>> can release & renew the ip address? >> >>I would start by checking the connection between the > computer and the >>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, > cable, or NIC could be >>the problem. >> >>-- >>Norman >>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >>. >> > Some simple facts are missing: 1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities? 2. Does it include a switch? or 3. Are you using ICS? -- "Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. Mike |
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Yes the modem has routing capabilities & includes a switch. I have tried ICS but this prevents both computers from connecting to the internet not just one. So at the moment both computers are set up to obtain ip automatically with no gateway & DNS disabled. David >-----Original Message----- >On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David" ><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper in >microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > >> Norman >> >> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an >> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their >> ips from the modem but aren't. >> >> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network >> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect >> to the internet (hence this message). The other computer >> can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the >> internet. Both computers are showing their network card >> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of >> 192.etc. >> >> It would appear therefore that something is preventing >> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any >> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question >> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it >> here.) >> >> Thanks >> >> David >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, >> David says... >>> >>>> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up >>>> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter >> name. >>>> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP autoconfiguration' >>>> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. >>> >>>> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. >>> >>>It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a DHCP >> server. Addresses >>>in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically assigned >> when a DHCP server >>>can't be found. >>> >>>> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so >> that I >>>> can release & renew the ip address? >>> >>>I would start by checking the connection between the >> computer and the >>>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, >> cable, or NIC could be >>>the problem. >>> >>>-- >>>Norman >>>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >>>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >>>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >>>. >>> >> > >Some simple facts are missing: >1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities? >2. Does it include a switch? or >3. Are you using ICS? > >-- > "Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; > it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." > Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. > >Mike >. > |
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In article <0e5b01c4a818$8f9318c0$(E-Mail Removed)>, David says...
> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an > adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their > ips from the modem but aren't. So I gathered. > The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network > emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect > to the internet (hence this message). The other computer > can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the > internet. Both computers are showing their network card > as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of > 192.etc. Which tells me that the computers can't reach a DHCP server. This is important because the DHCP server is how the NICs obtain an IP address automatically. But, that USB connection may hold the key. > It would appear therefore that something is preventing > these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any > ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question > to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it > here.) Yep. That seems to be the case; that something is preventing these NICs from obtaining an IP address. Getting back to the USB modem; If, in fact, you have the modem connected by USB, could you expand on that in detail? Is there a USB cable from the modem to one computer? How does the other computer connect to the modem? What ports are the Ethernet cables from the computers connecting to? Heck, what brand and model of modem is it? A USB modem will have, aside from the power connection, either two, or three connectors. If it is a pure USB modem, there will be a connector (either an 'F-Type', or an 'RJ-11') for the provider's network (cable or telephone), and there will be a Type B USB connector. You will connect the USB cable Type B plug to the modem, and the Type A plug to the computer. If that is all that you have, how do you get the rest of the LAN talking to the Internet? ICS on the modem connected computer. Tell us what your modem configuration is. What kind of connection on the provider's side (my Westell Wirespeed has an RJ-11 socket for the telephone network; my brother-in-law's cable modem has an F-Type connector for the cable network)? -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:28:42 GMT,"David"
<(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > Mike > > Yes the modem has routing capabilities & includes a > switch. I have tried ICS but this prevents both computers > from connecting to the internet not just one. So at the > moment both computers are set up to obtain ip > automatically with no gateway & DNS disabled. > > David > > >>-----Original Message----- >>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David" >><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper > in >>microsoft.public.windowsme.networking >> >>> Norman >>> >>> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an >>> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting > their >>> ips from the modem but aren't. >>> >>> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network >>> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can > connect >>> to the internet (hence this message). The other > computer >>> can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to > the >>> internet. Both computers are showing their network card >>> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead > of >>> 192.etc. >>> >>> It would appear therefore that something is preventing >>> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any >>> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same > question >>> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post > it >>> here.) >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> David >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, >>> David says... >>>> >>>>> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up >>>>> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter >>> name. >>>>> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP > autoconfiguration' >>>>> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. >>>> >>>>> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. >>>> >>>>It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a > DHCP >>> server. Addresses >>>>in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically > assigned >>> when a DHCP server >>>>can't be found. >>>> >>>>> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so >>> that I >>>>> can release & renew the ip address? >>>> >>>>I would start by checking the connection between the >>> computer and the >>>>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, >>> cable, or NIC could be >>>>the problem. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Norman >>>>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >>>>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >>>>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >>>>. >>>> >>> >> >>Some simple facts are missing: >>1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities? >>2. Does it include a switch? or >>3. Are you using ICS? >> >>-- >> "Time will bring to light whatever is > hidden; >> it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in > splendor." >> Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. >> >>Mike >>. >> > USB setups can bite sometimes, but I would first try setting up static IP's for the machines rather than using DHCP - I don't know why but it sometimes works. Second, you're right to leave ICS out of the picture. If you can access the modem setup pages, determine the DHCP range and pick addresses outside that but still in the subnet, or just disable DHCP temporarilly. -- "Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. Mike |
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The modem is a Netcom NB1300 it is connected via usb as I have mentioned. The connection between the modem to the telphone line is RJ111. The two computers connect via a cross over cable (cat 5e). I have tried ICS but it prevents either computer from connecting. If I manually type in ip addresses the computer connected to the modem has internet access, however the web interface of the modem ceases. If I assign ip automatically, the web interface works. If I assign an ip, say 192.168.1.100 & put as the gateway the modem ip, then there is no internet access. Delete the gateway and internet access in restored. Giving 2nd computer ip of say 192.168.1.101 only allows the twos computers to talk. In my nic list (via winipcfg) there is one for the modem. This was getting its ip automatically too, the ips were 211.etc. I have released & renewed this and it is now on the say subnet as the modem & has the modem as the gateway. I thought this would help with the problem but has appeared to have little effect. The modem because its working via usb will automatically switch on NAT, could this interfere? One final thing if the ips are obtained automatically I can ping both the modem and the ethernet simulation. However specify the ip and I can ping the simulation but not modem. Computer 2 cannot ping either modem or simulation regardless of how it gets its ip. Computers can always ping each other. Hope this helps David >-----Original Message----- >In article <0e5b01c4a818$8f9318c0$(E-Mail Removed)>, David says... > >> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an >> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting their >> ips from the modem but aren't. > >So I gathered. > >> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network >> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can connect >> to the internet (hence this message). The other computer >> can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to the >> internet. Both computers are showing their network card >> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead of >> 192.etc. > >Which tells me that the computers can't reach a DHCP server. This is >important because the DHCP server is how the NICs obtain an IP address >automatically. But, that USB connection may hold the key. > >> It would appear therefore that something is preventing >> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any >> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same question >> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post it >> here.) > >Yep. That seems to be the case; that something is preventing these NICs from >obtaining an IP address. > >Getting back to the USB modem; If, in fact, you have the modem connected by >USB, could you expand on that in detail? Is there a USB cable from the modem >to one computer? How does the other computer connect to the modem? What >ports are the Ethernet cables from the computers connecting to? Heck, what >brand and model of modem is it? > >A USB modem will have, aside from the power connection, either two, or three >connectors. If it is a pure USB modem, there will be a connector (either an >'F-Type', or an 'RJ-11') for the provider's network (cable or telephone), >and there will be a Type B USB connector. You will connect the USB cable >Type B plug to the modem, and the Type A plug to the computer. > >If that is all that you have, how do you get the rest of the LAN talking to >the Internet? ICS on the modem connected computer. > >Tell us what your modem configuration is. What kind of connection on the >provider's side (my Westell Wirespeed has an RJ-11 socket for the telephone >network; my brother-in-law's cable modem has an F-Type connector for the >cable network)? > >-- >Norman >~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >. > |
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My first step was to set up static ips, this is how I set a network at work. This works fine. The modem in that case was connected via ethernet as the computer had 2 nics. Manually specifying ips still only allows the computer connected to the modem internet access. It has the added downside of preventing the modem web access to work. So to modify a modem setting I have to switch to find ip automatically, reboot the computer then I can log onto web interface its a very slow process. I'll temporarily switch dhcp off & manually assign the ips and see if that works. I'll let you know how I get on - tomorrow night perhaps. David >-----Original Message----- >On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:28:42 GMT,"David" ><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper in >microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > >> Mike >> >> Yes the modem has routing capabilities & includes a >> switch. I have tried ICS but this prevents both computers >> from connecting to the internet not just one. So at the >> moment both computers are set up to obtain ip >> automatically with no gateway & DNS disabled. >> >> David >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David" >>><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper >> in >>>microsoft.public.windowsme.networking >>> >>>> Norman >>>> >>>> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and an >>>> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting >> their >>>> ips from the modem but aren't. >>>> >>>> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a network >>>> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can >> connect >>>> to the internet (hence this message). The other >> computer >>>> can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to >> the >>>> internet. Both computers are showing their network card >>>> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc instead >> of >>>> 192.etc. >>>> >>>> It would appear therefore that something is preventing >>>> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any >>>> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same >> question >>>> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post >> it >>>> here.) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, >>>> David says... >>>>> >>>>>> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing up >>>>>> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter >>>> name. >>>>>> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP >> autoconfiguration' >>>>>> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. >>>>> >>>>>> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. >>>>> >>>>>It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a >> DHCP >>>> server. Addresses >>>>>in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically >> assigned >>>> when a DHCP server >>>>>can't be found. >>>>> >>>>>> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so >>>> that I >>>>>> can release & renew the ip address? >>>>> >>>>>I would start by checking the connection between the >>>> computer and the >>>>>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, >>>> cable, or NIC could be >>>>>the problem. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Norman >>>>>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta >>>>>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain >>>>>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint >>>>>. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>Some simple facts are missing: >>>1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities? >>>2. Does it include a switch? or >>>3. Are you using ICS? >>> >>>-- >>> "Time will bring to light whatever is >> hidden; >>> it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in >> splendor." >>> Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. >>> >>>Mike >>>. >>> >> > >USB setups can bite sometimes, but I would first try setting up static IP's >for the machines rather than using DHCP - I don't know why but it sometimes >works. Second, you're right to leave ICS out of the picture. If you can >access the modem setup pages, determine the DHCP range and pick addresses >outside that but still in the subnet, or just disable DHCP temporarilly. > >-- > "Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; > it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." > Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. > >Mike >. > |
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I managed to get it up and running on the weekend. What I did was disable the DHCP in the modem. The NIC in PC1 was set to find ip automatically. I then ran ICS. PC2 was also set up to find ip automatically. This has set up both pcs on a 192.168.0.etc subnet, but they both talk to each other, share files, etc. They both have internet access & the modem can be accessed via the web interface. David "David" wrote: > Mike > > My first step was to set up static ips, this is how I set > a network at work. This works fine. The modem in that case > was connected via ethernet as the computer had 2 nics. > > Manually specifying ips still only allows the computer > connected to the modem internet access. It has the added > downside of preventing the modem web access to work. So to > modify a modem setting I have to switch to find ip > automatically, reboot the computer then I can log onto web > interface its a very slow process. > > I'll temporarily switch dhcp off & manually assign the ips > and see if that works. I'll let you know how I get on - > tomorrow night perhaps. > > David > > > >-----Original Message----- > >On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:28:42 GMT,"David" > ><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this whopper > in > >microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > > > >> Mike > >> > >> Yes the modem has routing capabilities & includes a > >> switch. I have tried ICS but this prevents both > computers > >> from connecting to the internet not just one. So at the > >> moment both computers are set up to obtain ip > >> automatically with no gateway & DNS disabled. > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:41:31 GMT,"David" > >>><(E-Mail Removed)> penned this > whopper > >> in > >>>microsoft.public.windowsme.networking > >>> > >>>> Norman > >>>> > >>>> It's a simple home network involving 2 computers and > an > >>>> adsl modem. The computers are supposed to be getting > >> their > >>>> ips from the modem but aren't. > >>>> > >>>> The modem is connected by usb & therefore has a > network > >>>> emulation. The computer connected to the modem can > >> connect > >>>> to the internet (hence this message). The other > >> computer > >>>> can share files, printers, etc, but cannot connect to > >> the > >>>> internet. Both computers are showing their network > card > >>>> as 'PCI bus master adapter' with ips of 169.etc > instead > >> of > >>>> 192.etc. > >>>> > >>>> It would appear therefore that something is > preventing > >>>> these nics from getting their ips from the modem. Any > >>>> ideas on what this might be? (I'll pose the same > >> question > >>>> to the modem manufacturer & if they respond I'll post > >> it > >>>> here.) > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> David > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>In article <20f301c4a7a4$1a82ee80$(E-Mail Removed)>, > >>>> David says... > >>>>> > >>>>>> When I run winipcfg my network adapter is showing > up > >>>>>> as 'PCI Bus Master Adapter' rather than the adapter > >>>> name. > >>>>>> Instead of 'IP address' it says 'IP > >> autoconfiguration' > >>>>>> with ip of type 169.etc & subnet of 255.255.0.0. > >>>>> > >>>>>> This ip cannot be release 7/or renewed. > >>>>> > >>>>>It can't be released because it wasn't assigned by a > >> DHCP > >>>> server. Addresses > >>>>>in the 169.254.0.0/16 IP range are automatically > >> assigned > >>>> when a DHCP server > >>>>>can't be found. > >>>>> > >>>>>> How can I get my network adapter name to show up so > >>>> that I > >>>>>> can release & renew the ip address? > >>>>> > >>>>>I would start by checking the connection between the > >>>> computer and the > >>>>>network which has the DHCP server running. Bad port, > >>>> cable, or NIC could be > >>>>>the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Norman > >>>>>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta > >>>>>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain > >>>>>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint > >>>>>. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>Some simple facts are missing: > >>>1. Does the modem have Routing capabilities? > >>>2. Does it include a switch? or > >>>3. Are you using ICS? > >>> > >>>-- > >>> "Time will bring to light whatever is > >> hidden; > >>> it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in > >> splendor." > >>> Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. > >>> > >>>Mike > >>>. > >>> > >> > > > >USB setups can bite sometimes, but I would first try > setting up static IP's > >for the machines rather than using DHCP - I don't know > why but it sometimes > >works. Second, you're right to leave ICS out of the > picture. If you can > >access the modem setup pages, determine the DHCP range > and pick addresses > >outside that but still in the subnet, or just disable > DHCP temporarilly. > > > >-- > > "Time will bring to light whatever is > hidden; > > it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in > splendor." > > Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. > > > >Mike > >. > > > |
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