Moving from one broadband ISP to another.

What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?


noman

mac code i think



"noman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?

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> What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?

Eternal happiness? A Merry Christmas? Or perhaps a MAC key?
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:04:22 UTC, "ALi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

> mac code i think

A MAC. Please don't say 'MAC code'....!

(for the OP, it's a Migration Authorisation Code. Give that to the new
ISP and the changeover *should* be almost seamless.)

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noman wrote:

> What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?

You need a MAC.

Beware that if your existing ISP has provisioned you on an LLU broadband circuit
(local loop unbundled as opposed to BT) your choice of new ISP is likely to be
slightly restricted. You quite possible won't even know about this as your phone
service itself (unless you aranged otherwise) will be unaffected and still be
with BT. Not all ISPs are able to accept LLU MACS. The situation may be
improving though.

Graham

Eeyore wrote:
> noman wrote:
>
>> What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?
>
> You need a MAC.
>
> Beware that if your existing ISP has provisioned you on an LLU broadband circuit
> (local loop unbundled as opposed to BT) your choice of new ISP is likely to be
> slightly restricted. You quite possible won't even know about this as your phone
> service itself (unless you aranged otherwise) will be unaffected and still be
> with BT. Not all ISPs are able to accept LLU MACS. The situation may be
> improving though.

ISPs are required to accept MACs if they are valid/correct, regardless
of whether they are BTwholesale or non-BTwholesale LLU.

They may charge you for the migration, as BTwholesale charge a full
activation fee for such a migration (non BTwholesale LLU to
BTwholesale), but they cannot reject your order on this basis.

Paul Cupis wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > noman wrote:
> >
> >> What do I need to ask the ISP I am leaving for?
> >
> > You need a MAC.
> >
> > Beware that if your existing ISP has provisioned you on an LLU broadband circuit
> > (local loop unbundled as opposed to BT) your choice of new ISP is likely to be
> > slightly restricted. You quite possible won't even know about this as your phone
> > service itself (unless you aranged otherwise) will be unaffected and still be
> > with BT. Not all ISPs are able to accept LLU MACS. The situation may be
> > improving though.
>
> ISPs are required to accept MACs if they are valid/correct, regardless
> of whether they are BTwholesale or non-BTwholesale LLU.

Then it must have recently changed.


> They may charge you for the migration, as BTwholesale charge a full
> activation fee for such a migration (non BTwholesale LLU to
> BTwholesale), but they cannot reject your order on this basis.

So in effect it's no better at least financially than the previous cease and reprovide
path then.

Look for an ISP that accepts LLU MACs without an accompanying extra charge. They do
exist but tend to be the better ones.

Graham

Eeyore wrote:
> Paul Cupis wrote:
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> You need a MAC.
>>>
>>> Beware that if your existing ISP has provisioned you on an LLU broadband circuit
>>> (local loop unbundled as opposed to BT) your choice of new ISP is likely to be
>>> slightly restricted. You quite possible won't even know about this as your phone
>>> service itself (unless you aranged otherwise) will be unaffected and still be
>>> with BT. Not all ISPs are able to accept LLU MACS. The situation may be
>>> improving though.
>> ISPs are required to accept MACs if they are valid/correct, regardless
>> of whether they are BTwholesale or non-BTwholesale LLU.
>
> Then it must have recently changed.

14th February Ofcom introduced new mandatory regulations for broadband
migrations.

>> They may charge you for the migration, as BTwholesale charge a full
>> activation fee for such a migration (non BTwholesale LLU to
>> BTwholesale), but they cannot reject your order on this basis.
>
> So in effect it's no better at least financially than the previous cease and reprovide
> path then.

Correct. It is much smoother, though, as the changeover takes <hours
rather than 17+ days.

> Look for an ISP that accepts LLU MACs without an accompanying extra charge. They do
> exist but tend to be the better ones.

You may also find that ISPs still offering free activation will be
willing to do a free migration from non-BTwholesale LLU even if their
websites do not say the same.

Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:04:22 UTC, "ALi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> mac code i think
>
> A MAC. Please don't say 'MAC code'....!
>
> (for the OP, it's a Migration Authorisation Code. Give that to the new
> ISP and the changeover *should* be almost seamless.)
>

I hope you're written to all the banks to advise them about
their mistakes with "pin codes" and "pin numbers"

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:06:49 +0100, Charlie Mitchell
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:04:22 UTC, "ALi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mac code i think
>>
>> A MAC. Please don't say 'MAC code'....!
>>
>> (for the OP, it's a Migration Authorisation Code. Give that to the new
>> ISP and the changeover *should* be almost seamless.)
>>
>
>I hope you're written to all the banks to advise them about
>their mistakes with "pin codes" and "pin numbers"

Banks don't use the terms "PIN number" or "PIN code", they say "PIN",
otherwise they would be collectively guilty of PNS syndrome.


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