Windows Server 2003 SP2 and Vista Issue.

Hi all,

I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two installs
of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If I
access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.

I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
to run out of options.

Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;

1) Disabled NBT.
2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from the
Server.
4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
much help.
5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
no help).

I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.

My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not think
that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change of
some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.

I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
issue.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?

Regards.


I





UglyRat

Try to disable IPv6. that may help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi all,

I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two installs
of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If I
access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.

I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
to run out of options.

Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;

1) Disabled NBT.
2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from the
Server.
4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
much help.
5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
no help).

I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.

My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not think
that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change of
some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.

I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
issue.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?

Regards.


I

Hi Robert,
Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
suggestion, no joy.
Any other ideas?

I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.




"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
Try to disable IPv6. that may help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi all,

I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two installs
of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If I
access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.

I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
to run out of options.

Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;

1) Disabled NBT.
2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from the
Server.
4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
much help.
5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
no help).

I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.

My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not think
that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change of
some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.

I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
issue.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?

Regards.


I

Just re-installed SP2 for Winows Server 2003, no joy.

I am running out of options.
I will have to roll back the Vista machines to XP at this rate. They are
usless at the moment. I can't browse my file server.

Regards.


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Robert,
> Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
> suggestion, no joy.
> Any other ideas?
>
> I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.
>
>
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Try to disable IPv6. that may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
> installs
> of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
> drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
> about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
> This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If
> I
> access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
> virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>
> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
> to run out of options.
>
> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>
> 1) Disabled NBT.
> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
> the
> Server.
> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
> much help.
> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
> no help).
>
> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>
> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
> think
> that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change
> of
> some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>
> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
> issue.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> I

Well, I have uninstalled SP2 and everything is working fine now.
I will leave SP2 off until it is pushed out to more people and see if the
issue is more common.

If not, then I will have to do a reinstall which is a big job for this
server.

Until next time....


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Robert,
> Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
> suggestion, no joy.
> Any other ideas?
>
> I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.
>
>
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Try to disable IPv6. that may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
> installs
> of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
> drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
> about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
> This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If
> I
> access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
> virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>
> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
> to run out of options.
>
> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>
> 1) Disabled NBT.
> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
> the
> Server.
> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
> much help.
> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
> no help).
>
> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>
> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
> think
> that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change
> of
> some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>
> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
> issue.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> I

It's not any help to your situation but I'm not experiencing the same
problem. What AV/Firewall programs are on the Vista machines?

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
> installs of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example
> I have a drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive
> it takes about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the
> share. This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any
> share. If I access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all.
> Even running a virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>
> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
> to run out of options.
>
> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>
> 1) Disabled NBT.
> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
> the Server.
> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
> much help.
> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
> no help).
>
> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>
> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
> think that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a
> change of some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>
> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
> issue.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> I
>
>
>

Hi - I've asked around about this issue and have a suggestion...

Most cases like this have been resolved using the command netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled on the Windows Vista client. This command disables the Receive Window Auto-Tuning feature.

See KB 932170: "When you copy large files to or from earlier operating systems, the copy operation may be slower than expected on some Windows Vista-based computers" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;932170

Can you give this a try and let me know if it helps? I cringe at a solution of "well, I'll just uninstall SP2", so I hope this works for you.

--
Chris Keroack

Release Program Manager
Windows Sustainability
Microsoft Corporation


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, I have uninstalled SP2 and everything is working fine now.
> I will leave SP2 off until it is pushed out to more people and see if the
> issue is more common.
>
> If not, then I will have to do a reinstall which is a big job for this
> server.
>
> Until next time....
>
>
> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Robert,
>> Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
>> suggestion, no joy.
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Try to disable IPv6. that may help.
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
>> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
>> installs
>> of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
>> drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
>> about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
>> This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If
>> I
>> access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
>> virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>>
>> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
>> to run out of options.
>>
>> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>>
>> 1) Disabled NBT.
>> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
>> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
>> the
>> Server.
>> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
>> much help.
>> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
>> no help).
>>
>> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
>> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>>
>> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
>> think
>> that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change
>> of
>> some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>>
>> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
>> issue.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> I
>

Chris, thank you for the input.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Chris Keroack (MS)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:B3DE279D-B042-476A-B4CE-(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi - I've asked around about this issue and have a suggestion...

Most cases like this have been resolved using the command netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled on the Windows Vista client. This command disables the Receive Window Auto-Tuning feature.

See KB 932170: "When you copy large files to or from earlier operating systems, the copy operation may be slower than expected on some Windows Vista-based computers" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;932170

Can you give this a try and let me know if it helps? I cringe at a solution of "well, I'll just uninstall SP2", so I hope this works for you.

--
Chris Keroack

Release Program Manager
Windows Sustainability
Microsoft Corporation


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, I have uninstalled SP2 and everything is working fine now.
> I will leave SP2 off until it is pushed out to more people and see if the
> issue is more common.
>
> If not, then I will have to do a reinstall which is a big job for this
> server.
>
> Until next time....
>
>
> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Robert,
>> Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
>> suggestion, no joy.
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Try to disable IPv6. that may help.
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
>> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
>> installs
>> of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
>> drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
>> about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
>> This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If
>> I
>> access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
>> virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>>
>> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
>> to run out of options.
>>
>> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>>
>> 1) Disabled NBT.
>> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
>> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
>> the
>> Server.
>> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
>> much help.
>> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
>> no help).
>>
>> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
>> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>>
>> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
>> think
>> that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change
>> of
>> some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>>
>> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
>> issue.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> I
>

Yes, Thanks Chris.
I will give it a try once I have installed the SP2 again. That wil be much later.

Thanks again.

"Chris Keroack (MS)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:B3DE279D-B042-476A-B4CE-(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi - I've asked around about this issue and have a suggestion...

Most cases like this have been resolved using the command netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled on the Windows Vista client. This command disables the Receive Window Auto-Tuning feature.

See KB 932170: "When you copy large files to or from earlier operating systems, the copy operation may be slower than expected on some Windows Vista-based computers" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;932170

Can you give this a try and let me know if it helps? I cringe at a solution of "well, I'll just uninstall SP2", so I hope this works for you.

--
Chris Keroack

Release Program Manager
Windows Sustainability
Microsoft Corporation


"UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, I have uninstalled SP2 and everything is working fine now.
> I will leave SP2 off until it is pushed out to more people and see if the
> issue is more common.
>
> If not, then I will have to do a reinstall which is a big job for this
> server.
>
> Until next time....
>
>
> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Robert,
>> Thanks for your reply. I tried disabling IPv6 just then on your
>> suggestion, no joy.
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> I am starting to think I might just reinstall the service pack.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Try to disable IPv6. that may help.
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "UglyRat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have installed Windows Server 2003 SP2 on my R2 server. Now when I try
>> and browse the shares of the server from Windows Vista (I have two
>> installs
>> of Vista) it is very slow to resolve folder names. For example I have a
>> drive mapped to a share, when I click the arrow next to the drive it takes
>> about 10 seconds to resolve the list of folder names within the share.
>> This delay is happening on any folder I try to open inside any share. If
>> I
>> access the server using Windows XP, no problems at all. Even running a
>> virtual machine with XP on a Vista host has no problems.
>>
>> I am reluctant to uninstall the SP2 because of security, but I am starting
>> to run out of options.
>>
>> Here are the fault finding techniques I have tried so far;
>>
>> 1) Disabled NBT.
>> 2) Changed the local Group Policy to disable all SMB signing.
>> 3) Connected to Vista from the Server, no delay when browsing Vista from
>> the
>> Server.
>> 4) Installed Network Monitor v3 on Vista and had a look at the frames, not
>> much help.
>> 5) Ran a robocopy from the Server to the Vista machine (surprise surprise,
>> no help).
>>
>> I should mention that my laptop is not a member of the active directory
>> domain, but the other Vista machine is and they both have problems.
>>
>> My next step will be to reinstall the SP2 on the Server, but I do not
>> think
>> that the SP did not install correctly, I suspect Microsoft made a change
>> of
>> some sort within the Service Pack which is causing the issue.
>>
>> I have read another article in a forum about someone else having the same
>> issue.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this problem?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> I
>