networking using a router/hum

ok, i have three computers:
#1 running me
#2 running me
#3 running 98

#2 can talk to #1 and #3
#1 can only talk to #2
and
#3 can only talk to #2

also cannot get #3 to share folders other than my docs.
any ideas
thanks mark



mark

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:06d401c3d3fb$6cbf3c30$(E-Mail Removed)...
> ok, i have three computers:
> #1 running me
> #2 running me
> #3 running 98
>
> #2 can talk to #1 and #3
> #1 can only talk to #2
> and
> #3 can only talk to #2
>
> also cannot get #3 to share folders other than my docs.
> any ideas
> thanks mark
>

In article <06d401c3d3fb$6cbf3c30$(E-Mail Removed)>, "mark"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>ok, i have three computers:
>#1 running me
>#2 running me
>#3 running 98
>
>#2 can talk to #1 and #3
>#1 can only talk to #2
>and
>#3 can only talk to #2
>
>also cannot get #3 to share folders other than my docs.
>any ideas
>thanks mark

The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single network
protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for Internet
access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI and IPX/SPX
from all computers.

I'm not sure what you mean when you imply that a computer can't "talk
to" another computer. How are you trying to get them to talk? What
exactly happens when you do it? If there's an error message, what
does it say?

If access through Network Neighborhood or My Network Places isn't
working, try going directly to the other computer by typing its name
in the Start | Run box, preceded by two backslash characters:

\\computer

How are you trying to get #3 to share other folders? What exactly
happens when you do it? If there's an error message, what does it
say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:26:03 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single network
>protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for Internet
>access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI and IPX/SPX
>from all computers.

You didn't used to say that until winxp came along and since he's not
using winxp it's not appropriate.

Win9x/ME will work okay with more than one protocol. The fact that
winxp has been disabled in some aspects is neither here nor there.


Jim.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, James Egan
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:26:03 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single network
>>protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for Internet
>>access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI and IPX/SPX
>>from all computers.
>
>You didn't used to say that until winxp came along and since he's not
>using winxp it's not appropriate.
>
>Win9x/ME will work okay with more than one protocol. The fact that
>winxp has been disabled in some aspects is neither here nor there.
>
>
>Jim.

Jim, here are some pre-XP news group messages where I said to use a
single protocol for File and Printer Sharing:

http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=v...4ax.com&rnum=7
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=o...4ax.com&rnum=8
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=er...ax.com&rnum=42
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=r...ax.com&rnum=14

In my opinion, using multiple protocols for File and Printer Sharing
has always been a bad idea. Even if the network works, it's subject
to extraneous network traffic and un-necessary delays in browsing and
accessing other compuers. When XP is involved, the network often
doesn't work at all.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 04:54:26 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Jim, here are some pre-XP news group messages where I said to use a
>single protocol for File and Printer Sharing:

And here's one where you didn't

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G3F0669F6


Not that it's a problem to change your mind. I've done it myself
plenty of times especially in the light of something I've found out
here or in related ng's. But the increased emphasis on only using one
protocol is down to windows xp's reduced functionality.


Jim.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, James Egan
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 04:54:26 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Jim, here are some pre-XP news group messages where I said to use a
>>single protocol for File and Printer Sharing:
>
>And here's one where you didn't
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?G3F0669F6
>
>
>Not that it's a problem to change your mind. I've done it myself
>plenty of times especially in the light of something I've found out
>here or in related ng's. But the increased emphasis on only using one
>protocol is down to windows xp's reduced functionality.
>
>
>Jim.

It's true that I wouldn't give that same advice today. However, it
shows that even in 1999 I said to use only a single protocol for file
and printer sharing.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:12:48 +0000, James Egan <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:26:03 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single network
>>protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for Internet
>>access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI and IPX/SPX
>>from all computers.
>
>You didn't used to say that until winxp came along and since he's not
>using winxp it's not appropriate.
>
>Win9x/ME will work okay with more than one protocol. The fact that
>winxp has been disabled in some aspects is neither here nor there.
>
>
>Jim.

Maybe it's not necessary to use just one protocol. But when you're
troubleshooting an unknown problem, it's hella easier to start with as
few variables as possible. Simplifying the network protocol stack is
a good start.

Cheers,

Chuck
I hate spam - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

ok, i guess i got a bit lazy on the first post after four
hours of restarting computers and changing settings. i'm
now able to access files between any of the three
computers, but am limited to only the my docs folder from
the computer running 98. in the printer/ folder sharing
thing, both boxes are checked to allow sharing. but i'm
still limited to just the my docs folder.

thanks again

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <06d401c3d3fb$6cbf3c30
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "mark"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>ok, i have three computers:
>>#1 running me
>>#2 running me
>>#3 running 98
>>
>>#2 can talk to #1 and #3
>>#1 can only talk to #2
>>and
>>#3 can only talk to #2
>>
>>also cannot get #3 to share folders other than my docs.
>>any ideas
>>thanks mark
>
>The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single
network
>protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for
Internet
>access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI
and IPX/SPX
>from all computers.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean when you imply that a computer
can't "talk
>to" another computer. How are you trying to get them to
talk? What
>exactly happens when you do it? If there's an error
message, what
>does it say?
>
>If access through Network Neighborhood or My Network
Places isn't
>working, try going directly to the other computer by
typing its name
>in the Start | Run box, preceded by two backslash
characters:
>
> \\computer
>
>How are you trying to get #3 to share other folders?
What exactly
>happens when you do it? If there's an error message,
what does it
>say?
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

replying to my own post, each drive or folder needs to be
set to sharing apparently. got it figured out now.
thanks every one.
>-----Original Message-----
>ok, i guess i got a bit lazy on the first post after four
>hours of restarting computers and changing settings. i'm
>now able to access files between any of the three
>computers, but am limited to only the my docs folder from
>the computer running 98. in the printer/ folder sharing
>thing, both boxes are checked to allow sharing. but i'm
>still limited to just the my docs folder.
>
>thanks again
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>In article <06d401c3d3fb$6cbf3c30
>$(E-Mail Removed)>, "mark"
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>ok, i have three computers:
>>>#1 running me
>>>#2 running me
>>>#3 running 98
>>>
>>>#2 can talk to #1 and #3
>>>#1 can only talk to #2
>>>and
>>>#3 can only talk to #2
>>>
>>>also cannot get #3 to share folders other than my docs.
>>>any ideas
>>>thanks mark
>>
>>The key to Windows networking is to use the same, single
>network
>>protocol on all computers. Since you use a router for
>Internet
>>access, that protocol should be TCP/IP. Remove NetBEUI
>and IPX/SPX
>>from all computers.
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean when you imply that a
computer
>can't "talk
>>to" another computer. How are you trying to get them to
>talk? What
>>exactly happens when you do it? If there's an error
>message, what
>>does it say?
>>
>>If access through Network Neighborhood or My Network
>Places isn't
>>working, try going directly to the other computer by
>typing its name
>>in the Start | Run box, preceded by two backslash
>characters:
>>
>> \\computer
>>
>>How are you trying to get #3 to share other folders?
>What exactly
>>happens when you do it? If there's an error message,
>what does it
>>say?
>>--
>>Best Wishes,
>>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
>group
>>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
>questions
>>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>>.
>>
>.
>