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Old 11-25-2003, 06:32 PM
Default Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?



Hi,
I'm trying to use a spare Barricade (SMC7004VBR) Cable/Dsl Router for
segmenting the LAN in substitution of a two NICs WindowsNT server. The
problem is that the barricade does NAT (or actually PAT - port address
translation). Then the PCs (Windows 98) that are located behind the
barricade are seen as an unique IP address: the IP of the Barricade's
internal lan NIC. Apparently it causes that these PCs couldn't login into
the domain server (Windows 2000) locate outside the Barricade.
Is it any way I can make these PCs to login into the domain server despite
the NAT/PAT translation?

Thanks in advance

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Old 11-26-2003, 12:43 AM
Bill Grant
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Default Re: Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?

Can't you turn off the NAT/PAT ? It is only required if you use the
router as an Internet router. It is not required for a LAN router. You
obviously don't need it, because NT4 didn't have it!

"faustino Dina" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm trying to use a spare Barricade (SMC7004VBR) Cable/Dsl Router for
> segmenting the LAN in substitution of a two NICs WindowsNT server. The
> problem is that the barricade does NAT (or actually PAT - port address
> translation). Then the PCs (Windows 98) that are located behind the
> barricade are seen as an unique IP address: the IP of the Barricade's
> internal lan NIC. Apparently it causes that these PCs couldn't login into
> the domain server (Windows 2000) locate outside the Barricade.
> Is it any way I can make these PCs to login into the domain server despite
> the NAT/PAT translation?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --
> Faustino Dina
> --------------------------------------------------------
> If my email address starts with two 'f'
> drop the first 'f' when mailing me.
>
>



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Old 11-26-2003, 03:03 PM
faustino Dina
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Default Re: Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?

> Can't you turn off the NAT/PAT ?
It's just the point! We can't find the way to disable NAT on the Barricade.
Does anybody knows how to do that?

Thanks
Faustino


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Old 11-27-2003, 02:04 AM
David Wang [Msft]
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Default Re: Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?

Google for "SMC7004VBR" and see the instructions.

http://www.smc.com/drivers_downloads...004VBR_MN2.pdf

I'm not reading anything on page 22 to "turn off" NAT, though the
documentation does mention something about Port-Triggered forwarding for
"Special Applications" -- seems like it's designed to poke a hole through
the NAT. Try that.

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"faustino Dina" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can't you turn off the NAT/PAT ?

It's just the point! We can't find the way to disable NAT on the Barricade.
Does anybody knows how to do that?

Thanks
Faustino



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Old 11-27-2003, 05:23 AM
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I have a different SMC router (SMC7004AWBR) and it looks like you can
disable the NAT by turning off the "Advance Hacker Monitorig and Logging"
option under Advance/Firewall.

"David Wang [Msft]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Google for "SMC7004VBR" and see the instructions.
>
> http://www.smc.com/drivers_downloads...004VBR_MN2.pdf
>
> I'm not reading anything on page 22 to "turn off" NAT, though the
> documentation does mention something about Port-Triggered forwarding for
> "Special Applications" -- seems like it's designed to poke a hole through
> the NAT. Try that.
>
> --
> //David
> IIS
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

rights.
> //
> "faustino Dina" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OEV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Can't you turn off the NAT/PAT ?

> It's just the point! We can't find the way to disable NAT on the

Barricade.
> Does anybody knows how to do that?
>
> Thanks
> Faustino
>
>
>



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Old 11-27-2003, 07:54 PM
faustino Dina
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Default Re: Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?

> I'm not reading anything on page 22 to "turn off" NAT, though the
> documentation does mention something about Port-Triggered forwarding for
> "Special Applications" -- seems like it's designed to poke a hole through
> the NAT. Try that.


We already tryed but it doesn't works. It doesn't disables PAT

Thanks for your response


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Old 11-27-2003, 07:55 PM
faustino Dina
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> I have a different SMC router (SMC7004AWBR) and it looks like you can
> disable the NAT by turning off the "Advance Hacker Monitorig and Logging"
> option under Advance/Firewall.


The VBR version doesn't has anything similar

Thanks anyway for your answer


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Old 11-28-2003, 12:18 AM
Tim
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Default Re: Can I login into Domain server throught NAT/PAT device?

have you checked that you have the latest firmware for your router
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?sec=Sup...rod=257&site=c

sometimes a firmware upgrade gives you access to extra settings


"faustino Dina" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > I have a different SMC router (SMC7004AWBR) and it looks like you can
> > disable the NAT by turning off the "Advance Hacker Monitorig and

Logging"
> > option under Advance/Firewall.

>
> The VBR version doesn't has anything similar
>
> Thanks anyway for your answer
>
>



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Old 11-29-2003, 02:30 AM
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"faustino Dina" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > I have a different SMC router (SMC7004AWBR) and it looks like you can
> > disable the NAT by turning off the "Advance Hacker Monitorig and

Logging"
> > option under Advance/Firewall.

>
> The VBR version doesn't has anything similar
>
> Thanks anyway for your answer


Have you tried asking SMC? Perhaps they could even help you out with a
firmware upgrade (if needed).
Chris


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