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Old 12-09-2005, 05:02 PM
Default No Computers in DOMAIN !!



Hello!

Thank you for reading this. I know your time is valuable and any tips are
appreciated.

We have a PDC and a BDC. Windows 2003, AD, DNS, etc, etc. It would be your
basic core network.

All of a sudden the PDC is not showing on the list of any computer when you
go to "My Network Places">>"my domain"

AND ... on the PDC NO COMPUTERS SHOW! If the domain is clicked, no computers
are displayed...

the cherry on top would be that, apparently, DNS is working fine. In fact if
from the server any computer name is typed, it can be reached. Same from any
computer, if the server's name is typed there is no problem.

Operations are as any other day and all users are working with no issues
whatsoever... But, all applications (like Veritas) can't see the network.
Veritas will still go to the remote machines and back up. But since it can't
see anything in the domain, no more selections can be made, nor modified.

Thanks in advanced for your help!

Best Regards!


Mario Manzano
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:30 PM
Robert L [MS-MVP]
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I would master browser first. also make sure you have file and printer sharing enabled.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
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How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mario Manzano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:1DF4DD45-1733-436D-B9DC-(E-Mail Removed)...
Hello!

Thank you for reading this. I know your time is valuable and any tips are
appreciated.

We have a PDC and a BDC. Windows 2003, AD, DNS, etc, etc. It would be your
basic core network.

All of a sudden the PDC is not showing on the list of any computer when you
go to "My Network Places">>"my domain"

AND ... on the PDC NO COMPUTERS SHOW! If the domain is clicked, no computers
are displayed...

the cherry on top would be that, apparently, DNS is working fine. In fact if
from the server any computer name is typed, it can be reached. Same from any
computer, if the server's name is typed there is no problem.

Operations are as any other day and all users are working with no issues
whatsoever... But, all applications (like Veritas) can't see the network.
Veritas will still go to the remote machines and back up. But since it can't
see anything in the domain, no more selections can be made, nor modified.

Thanks in advanced for your help!

Best Regards!
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Phillip Windell
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"Mario Manzano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1DF4DD45-1733-436D-B9DC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have a PDC and a BDC. Windows 2003, AD, DNS, etc, etc. It would be your
> basic core network.


In AD Domains there are no PDCs and BDCs. There is a PDC Roles possesed by
one of the DCs, but it is not the same things as the old PDC/BDC situation.

> All of a sudden the PDC is not showing on the list of any computer when

you
> go to "My Network Places">>"my domain"


Network Places does nothing more than display the contents of the Browse
List. It has nothing to do with wether the connectivity is functioning or
not. The Browse List is dependent upon having "Netbios Over TCP/IP"
enabled,...the Computer Browser Service running,...and,.I think,..the Server
Service running. If there is more than one subnet, then it also depends on
having a runing WINS Server functioning.

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Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:50 PM
Bill Grant
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You could also add that it has nothing at all to do with DNS.

Does the DC with the PDC role have two NICs or is it configured for
remote access? Both of these can foul up browsing.

Phillip Windell wrote:
> "Mario Manzano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:1DF4DD45-1733-436D-B9DC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> We have a PDC and a BDC. Windows 2003, AD, DNS, etc, etc. It would
>> be your basic core network.

>
> In AD Domains there are no PDCs and BDCs. There is a PDC Roles
> possesed by one of the DCs, but it is not the same things as the old
> PDC/BDC situation.
>
>> All of a sudden the PDC is not showing on the list of any computer
>> when you go to "My Network Places">>"my domain"

>
> Network Places does nothing more than display the contents of the
> Browse List. It has nothing to do with wether the connectivity is
> functioning or not. The Browse List is dependent upon having
> "Netbios Over TCP/IP" enabled,...the Computer Browser Service
> running,...and,.I think,..the Server Service running. If there is
> more than one subnet, then it also depends on having a runing WINS
> Server functioning.



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Old 12-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Mario Manzano
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As weird as it may sound.

As soon as I added a "Reverse DNS Zone".... all came back to normal... .



"Bill Grant" wrote:

> You could also add that it has nothing at all to do with DNS.
>
> Does the DC with the PDC role have two NICs or is it configured for
> remote access? Both of these can foul up browsing.
>
> Phillip Windell wrote:
> > "Mario Manzano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > message news:1DF4DD45-1733-436D-B9DC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> We have a PDC and a BDC. Windows 2003, AD, DNS, etc, etc. It would
> >> be your basic core network.

> >
> > In AD Domains there are no PDCs and BDCs. There is a PDC Roles
> > possesed by one of the DCs, but it is not the same things as the old
> > PDC/BDC situation.
> >
> >> All of a sudden the PDC is not showing on the list of any computer
> >> when you go to "My Network Places">>"my domain"

> >
> > Network Places does nothing more than display the contents of the
> > Browse List. It has nothing to do with wether the connectivity is
> > functioning or not. The Browse List is dependent upon having
> > "Netbios Over TCP/IP" enabled,...the Computer Browser Service
> > running,...and,.I think,..the Server Service running. If there is
> > more than one subnet, then it also depends on having a runing WINS
> > Server functioning.

>
>
>

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Old 12-14-2005, 10:38 PM
Phillip Windell
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And that too....
:-)

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"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
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> You could also add that it has nothing at all to do with DNS.
>
> Does the DC with the PDC role have two NICs or is it configured for
> remote access? Both of these can foul up browsing.



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Old 12-14-2005, 10:40 PM
Phillip Windell
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"Mario Manzano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E4EC0962-A6C3-4D80-814D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> As weird as it may sound.
>
> As soon as I added a "Reverse DNS Zone".... all came back to normal... .


It should work with no Reverse DNS Zone at all.
It should work without a DNS Server at all.
In a single subnet it will even work without a Domain at all.

So this just means that something is wrong somewhere and this just "covered
up" the problem and now it will be harder to find the problem.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp

Deployment Guidelines for ISA Server 2004 Enterprise Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...isaserver.mspx
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