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Old 11-28-2004, 01:48 PM
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I'm trying to set up the following network (using an el cheapo hub):

Win 2K: "main" computer, has printer, dialup connection, etc.
(running ICS, and so, acting as DHCP server)
FC 1 box (Fedora Core 1, 2.4.22 kernel)
Win 98 box

Most of the documentation I've read about Samba has to do with setting
it up as a server, but here I just want it to be a quiet, docile DHCP
client to the Win 2K box, running Internet Connection Sharing (and thus,
acting as DHCP server). I want to designate shared directories on the
FC1 box and have them visible on the Win2K and Win98 hosts.

What about NFS: Do I need NFS for this setup, or is that just for full
client-server network setups?

Currently, I have it so that the FC1 box can see the shared drives on
the two Windoze boxes and they can see each other's shared drives. And
it can log into the Win2K machine (doesn't need to log into the Win98
machine). And each computer can ping every other computer. But the
Windoze boxes cannot see the FC1's shares, or log into it. What do I
need in my smb.conf file to designate shared directories and enable
Windoze users to log into the FC1 box (both users and non-users of that
box)and access the shared directories on it?



Bruce Coryell
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:31 PM
KJ
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:48:09 +0000, Bruce Coryell wrote:

> I'm trying to set up the following network (using an el cheapo hub):
>
> Win 2K: "main" computer, has printer, dialup connection, etc.
> (running ICS, and so, acting as DHCP server)
> FC 1 box (Fedora Core 1, 2.4.22 kernel) Win 98 box
>
> Most of the documentation I've read about Samba has to do with setting it
> up as a server, but here I just want it to be a quiet, docile DHCP client
> to the Win 2K box, running Internet Connection Sharing (and thus, acting
> as DHCP server). I want to designate shared directories on the FC1 box
> and have them visible on the Win2K and Win98 hosts.
>
> What about NFS: Do I need NFS for this setup, or is that just for full
> client-server network setups?
>
> Currently, I have it so that the FC1 box can see the shared drives on the
> two Windoze boxes and they can see each other's shared drives. And it can
> log into the Win2K machine (doesn't need to log into the Win98 machine).
> And each computer can ping every other computer. But the Windoze boxes
> cannot see the FC1's shares, or log into it. What do I need in my
> smb.conf file to designate shared directories and enable Windoze users to
> log into the FC1 box (both users and non-users of that box)and access the
> shared directories on it?


If you have a hub, use it instead for sharing the internet! ICS is
notorious for being one of the buggiest things to come out of Redmond
[amazing but true]. Sure you can get ICS working, then one not so
distant day, ICS just stops working! And this is without you making any
changes to it. If anything to share a modem line, I use the Linux box as
the host.

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Old 11-28-2004, 03:45 PM
Markku Kolkka
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Bruce Coryell wrote:

> Most of the documentation I've read about Samba has to do with setting
> it up as a server, but here I just want it to be a quiet, docile DHCP
> client to the Win 2K box, running Internet Connection Sharing (and
> thus, acting as DHCP server).


This has nothing to do with Samba setup.

> I want to designate shared directories on the
> FC1 box and have them visible on the Win2K and Win98 hosts.


Then your FC1 box will be a Samba server. A single machine can be client
to one network protocol and a server to another, or both client and
server to one protocol. In your configuration the Linux machine will be
DHCP client and Samba client/server.

> What about NFS: Do I need NFS for this setup, or is that just for
> full client-server network setups?


Windows doesn't normally include NFS, if you haven't installed separate
NFS software to your Windows machines then setting it up in Linux is
useless.

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Old 11-28-2004, 03:57 PM
Bruce Coryell
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But, ah, that is the problem: No Linux driver exists for my win modem,
and I don't have simoleon to go out and buy another one right now. You
are right about ICS being buggy (it often dials my connection when the
network is up and no computer is trying to access the internet). So,
for now, Win2K needs to be the "host" (I've seriously considered
promoting the Win98 machine to host and see if that version of ICS is
less buggy than Win2K's).

The hub is just a hub (all calls are broadcast to all hosts)- no
switching/ routing capabilities, so no, I can't use that to control
internet access.

I think I almost have it: just need to tweak the smb.conf file somehow
so the Win boxes can see the Linux shares.

KJ wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:48:09 +0000, Bruce Coryell wrote:
>
>
>>I'm trying to set up the following network (using an el cheapo hub):
>>
>> Win 2K: "main" computer, has printer, dialup connection, etc.
>> (running ICS, and so, acting as DHCP server)
>> FC 1 box (Fedora Core 1, 2.4.22 kernel) Win 98 box
>>
>>Most of the documentation I've read about Samba has to do with setting it
>>up as a server, but here I just want it to be a quiet, docile DHCP client
>>to the Win 2K box, running Internet Connection Sharing (and thus, acting
>>as DHCP server). I want to designate shared directories on the FC1 box
>>and have them visible on the Win2K and Win98 hosts.
>>
>>What about NFS: Do I need NFS for this setup, or is that just for full
>>client-server network setups?
>>
>>Currently, I have it so that the FC1 box can see the shared drives on the
>>two Windoze boxes and they can see each other's shared drives. And it can
>>log into the Win2K machine (doesn't need to log into the Win98 machine).
>>And each computer can ping every other computer. But the Windoze boxes
>>cannot see the FC1's shares, or log into it. What do I need in my
>>smb.conf file to designate shared directories and enable Windoze users to
>>log into the FC1 box (both users and non-users of that box)and access the
>>shared directories on it?

>
>
> If you have a hub, use it instead for sharing the internet! ICS is
> notorious for being one of the buggiest things to come out of Redmond
> [amazing but true]. Sure you can get ICS working, then one not so
> distant day, ICS just stops working! And this is without you making any
> changes to it. If anything to share a modem line, I use the Linux box as
> the host.
>


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