Wireless Adapter IP Adress

I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.

As I haven't got DHCP installed I want to assign my own IP address.

The AP has got 192.168.0.227 which is fine for the moment but I cannot
appear to assign my own IP address to the PC card.

I am, at the moment unfamiliar with the configuration set up but going
round certain settings I did notice the card assigned itself
169.254.***.*** (Can't recall the last numbers) which I know is
Windows preferred addresses.

When I unticked the option for Windows to configure I cannot find
anywhere how to assign my own IP address.

Any clues greatly appreciated.

Geoff Lane



Geoff Lane

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Geoff Lane
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.
>
>As I haven't got DHCP installed I want to assign my own IP address.
>
>The AP has got 192.168.0.227 which is fine for the moment but I cannot
>appear to assign my own IP address to the PC card.
>
>I am, at the moment unfamiliar with the configuration set up but going
>round certain settings I did notice the card assigned itself
>169.254.***.*** (Can't recall the last numbers) which I know is
>Windows preferred addresses.
>
>When I unticked the option for Windows to configure I cannot find
>anywhere how to assign my own IP address.
>
>Any clues greatly appreciated.
>
>Geoff Lane

The place where you assign an IP address is right below where you tell
it to obtain an IP address automatically:

1. Go to Control Panel | Network.
2. Click "TCP/IP -> network adapter".
3. Click Properties.
4. Select "Specify an IP Address".
5. Enter the IP address and subnet mask.

For Internet access, you also need to click the DNS Configuration and
Gateway tabs and enter the appropriate information.

Doesn't your wireless access point have a built-in DHCP server?
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Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:


>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.
>>
>>As I haven't got DHCP installed I want to assign my own IP address.
>>
>>The AP has got 192.168.0.227 which is fine for the moment but I cannot
>>appear to assign my own IP address to the PC card.

>>Any clues greatly appreciated.

> The place where you assign an IP address is right below where you tell
> it to obtain an IP address automatically:
>
> 1. Go to Control Panel | Network.
> 2. Click "TCP/IP -> network adapter".
> 3. Click Properties.
> 4. Select "Specify an IP Address".
> 5. Enter the IP address and subnet mask.
>
> For Internet access, you also need to click the DNS Configuration and
> Gateway tabs and enter the appropriate information.
>
> Doesn't your wireless access point have a built-in DHCP server?

It has but up to now on my wired system I've assigned my own IP addresses, I
didn't want to confuse matters with mixing it with DHCP

--
Geoff Lane
Welwyn Hatfield Computer Club
www.whcc.co.uk

On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:28:44 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.

>>I am, at the moment unfamiliar with the configuration set up but going
>>round certain settings I did notice the card assigned itself
>>169.254.***.*** (Can't recall the last numbers) which I know is
>>Windows preferred addresses.
>>
>>When I unticked the option for Windows to configure I cannot find
>>anywhere how to assign my own IP address.
>>
>>Any clues greatly appreciated.

>The place where you assign an IP address is right below where you tell
>it to obtain an IP address automatically:
>
>1. Go to Control Panel | Network.
>2. Click "TCP/IP -> network adapter".
>3. Click Properties.
>4. Select "Specify an IP Address".
>5. Enter the IP address and subnet mask.

Thanks Steve, I'm getting there.

All appears to be working OK now though for the moment I am leaving
the WEP disabled and other security settings until I know what I'm
doing.

I suppose there is always the reset button to get back to normal.

Geoff Lane

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:52:20 +0100, Geoff Lane <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:28:44 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.
>
>>>I am, at the moment unfamiliar with the configuration set up but going
>>>round certain settings I did notice the card assigned itself
>>>169.254.***.*** (Can't recall the last numbers) which I know is
>>>Windows preferred addresses.
>>>
>>>When I unticked the option for Windows to configure I cannot find
>>>anywhere how to assign my own IP address.
>>>
>>>Any clues greatly appreciated.
>
>>The place where you assign an IP address is right below where you tell
>>it to obtain an IP address automatically:
>>
>>1. Go to Control Panel | Network.
>>2. Click "TCP/IP -> network adapter".
>>3. Click Properties.
>>4. Select "Specify an IP Address".
>>5. Enter the IP address and subnet mask.
>
>Thanks Steve, I'm getting there.
>
>All appears to be working OK now though for the moment I am leaving
>the WEP disabled and other security settings until I know what I'm
>doing.

An open access point in Watford?
Whooohoooo!!
Be right over!

;-)

Seriously, it's a trivial matter to enable MAC Address Filtering and putting
your only device into the "allow" list. At least do that much...

/daytripper

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:57:44 GMT, daytripper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>>>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.
>>

>>All appears to be working OK now though for the moment I am leaving
>>the WEP disabled and other security settings until I know what I'm
>>doing.
>
>An open access point in Watford?
>Whooohoooo!!
>Be right over!
>
>;-)
>
>Seriously, it's a trivial matter to enable MAC Address Filtering and putting
>your only device into the "allow" list. At least do that much...

Yeah, reading the manual (Pamphlet) it does look quite easy, I'll do
at least that.

As you mention MAC address, I'm not sure why I may need it but how do
I find the MAC address of the Access Point. The AP name gives
netgear+6 digits of the MAC address but not the full address.

I can't see it on the AP set up HTML page.

Geoff Lane

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 10:09:56 +0100, Geoff Lane <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:57:44 GMT, daytripper
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.
>>>
>
>>>All appears to be working OK now though for the moment I am leaving
>>>the WEP disabled and other security settings until I know what I'm
>>>doing.
>>
>>An open access point in Watford?
>>Whooohoooo!!
>>Be right over!
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>Seriously, it's a trivial matter to enable MAC Address Filtering and putting
>>your only device into the "allow" list. At least do that much...
>
>Yeah, reading the manual (Pamphlet) it does look quite easy, I'll do
>at least that.
>
>As you mention MAC address, I'm not sure why I may need it but how do
>I find the MAC address of the Access Point. The AP name gives
>netgear+6 digits of the MAC address but not the full address.
>
>I can't see it on the AP set up HTML page.
>
>Geoff Lane

MAC filtering on a WAP ("wireless access point") keeps *uninvited* WIRELESS
devices from exploiting your LAN. Any device with a MAC address not already
registered in the WAP's "allow access" table will be unceremoniously ignored.
While not a panacea, as a first-order filter it's hard to beat.

So the proper MAC address(es) to put in the "allow access" table on the WAP
is(are) the MAC address(es) of *your* wireless card(s) - not the WAP's MAC
address.

To find the MAC address of your wireless card - assuming it isn't printed on
the outside of the card itself - plug the card in, boot up, and then do an
"ipconfig/all" from a Command Prompt (win NT, 2K, XP Pro) or use (iirc)
\windows\system32\winipcfg.exe.

Then use the WAP's web-based GUI to add that address to the "allow access"
list, then enable MAC filtering.

And then I'll no longer be able to "visit" your LAN...

/daytripper (Don't worry, I'll get over it ;-)

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:33:58 GMT, daytripper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>>>>>>I've just bought a Netgear wireless AP and laptop card.

>>>Seriously, it's a trivial matter to enable MAC Address Filtering and putting
>>>your only device into the "allow" list. At least do that much...
>>
>>Yeah, reading the manual (Pamphlet) it does look quite easy, I'll do
>>at least that.
>>
>>As you mention MAC address, I'm not sure why I may need it but how do
>>I find the MAC address of the Access Point. The AP name gives
>>netgear+6 digits of the MAC address but not the full address.
>>
>>I can't see it on the AP set up HTML page.

>To find the MAC address of your wireless card - assuming it isn't printed on
>the outside of the card itself - plug the card in, boot up, and then do an
>"ipconfig/all" from a Command Prompt (win NT, 2K, XP Pro) or use (iirc)
>\windows\system32\winipcfg.exe.

Thanks.

This is pure curiosity rather than necessity, how do I find out the
AP's MAC address and more to the point would I ever need the AP's MAC
address.

Geoff Lane

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Geoff Lane
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>This is pure curiosity rather than necessity, how do I find out the
>>AP's MAC address and more to the point would I ever need the AP's MAC
>>address.
>
>A wireless access point has two MAC addresses: one for the wireless
>side, and one for the wired Ethernet side. To see them, connect to
>the AP's built-in web server or configuration program. For example, my
>D-Link DWL-900AP+ shows its MAC addresses on the Status screen of its
>web server.

OK, even I can't come up with why a WAP would need *two* MAC addresses.

Heck, son, each and every MAC is already supposed to be *unique*, why clutter
up the firmware with different values if you actually ever want to talk to the
WAP?

/daytripper

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:42:01 GMT, daytripper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>>This is pure curiosity rather than necessity, how do I find out the
>>AP's MAC address and more to the point would I ever need the AP's MAC
>>address.

>And since the beginnings of this thread, I've been trying to come up with a
>practical reason to know the WAP's MAC on a small mixed-media LAN.
>
>So far I've come up with zilch.
>
>On a large (read: corporate) LAN, I can see the point: if all of the
>known-officially-deployed WAPs are registered by their MAC at the peripheral
>routers, they can effectively block users (or other nefarious types ;-) from
>attaching a WAP to the LAN...

Thanks, this wireless networking is a fascinating learning curve.

Geoff Lane