wpa problems again...

I posted here a few weeks ago, that I had setup a business with WPA-PSK (
using a dlink router).... and had problems with network drives not being
there when software opened up, and all-in-all just a general instability
going on...

So I switched it to WEP and all was well, my plan was to go back in a few
weeks after everything was more stable with the business setup, and switch
it over to WPA again...

Another business asked about his security with his setup. He had WEP and he
read articles about war-driving, etc...So we switched him over to WPA, with
a netgear router. And he is having a horrible time with it as well... Today
he called and said his network going down every 20 minutes. The other day,
one of his computers lost their connectivity, and we were trying to remote
desktop into it....we had to manually connect it again from that machine.

Someone said that it is the same as WEP in a sense, but I beg to differ. I
am not exactly sure how it works, but I am sure of the results I have
gotten. I know, usually I am against wireless anyways (always have been,
always preferred a wired setup), but recently have been more liberal with my
clients about the wireless, but now with all these problems with WPA, and
the security risk with WEP, I am almost in the same boat again...

Am I crazy? Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with WPA?

Thanks....




paranoid

It works just fine with me.
I used WEP in the past and I switched to WAP-PSK with no problem at all.
I have 2 different wireless networks, using Linksys at home and Netopia at
work.
I don't understand how and why you should have troubles in connecting if you
have the right key.
If I were you, I would reset the router and use a completely different code,
starting from scratch.
Good luck!
Steffo

paranoid wrote:
> I posted here a few weeks ago, that I had setup a business with
> WPA-PSK ( using a dlink router).... and had problems with network
> drives not being there when software opened up, and all-in-all just a
> general instability going on...
>
> So I switched it to WEP and all was well, my plan was to go back in a
> few weeks after everything was more stable with the business setup,
> and switch it over to WPA again...
>
> Another business asked about his security with his setup. He had WEP
> and he read articles about war-driving, etc...So we switched him over
> to WPA, with a netgear router. And he is having a horrible time with
> it as well... Today he called and said his network going down every
> 20 minutes. The other day, one of his computers lost their
> connectivity, and we were trying to remote desktop into it....we had
> to manually connect it again from that machine.
> Someone said that it is the same as WEP in a sense, but I beg to
> differ. I am not exactly sure how it works, but I am sure of the
> results I have gotten. I know, usually I am against wireless anyway
> (always have been, always preferred a wired setup), but recently have
> been more liberal with my clients about the wireless, but now with
> all these problems with WPA, and the security risk with WEP, I am
> almost in the same boat again...
> Am I crazy? Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with
> WPA?
> Thanks....

Get the latest firmware for the routers, and the latest O/S upgrades for the
PCs, e.g. SP2 for XP.



"Steffo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:43592838$(E-Mail Removed)...
> It works just fine with me.
> I used WEP in the past and I switched to WAP-PSK with no problem at all.
> I have 2 different wireless networks, using Linksys at home and Netopia at
> work.
> I don't understand how and why you should have troubles in connecting if
> you have the right key.
> If I were you, I would reset the router and use a completely different
> code, starting from scratch.
> Good luck!
> Steffo
>
> paranoid wrote:
>> I posted here a few weeks ago, that I had setup a business with
>> WPA-PSK ( using a dlink router).... and had problems with network
>> drives not being there when software opened up, and all-in-all just a
>> general instability going on...
>>
>> So I switched it to WEP and all was well, my plan was to go back in a
>> few weeks after everything was more stable with the business setup,
>> and switch it over to WPA again...
>>
>> Another business asked about his security with his setup. He had WEP
>> and he read articles about war-driving, etc...So we switched him over
>> to WPA, with a netgear router. And he is having a horrible time with
>> it as well... Today he called and said his network going down every
>> 20 minutes. The other day, one of his computers lost their
>> connectivity, and we were trying to remote desktop into it....we had
>> to manually connect it again from that machine.
>> Someone said that it is the same as WEP in a sense, but I beg to
>> differ. I am not exactly sure how it works, but I am sure of the
>> results I have gotten. I know, usually I am against wireless anyway
>> (always have been, always preferred a wired setup), but recently have
>> been more liberal with my clients about the wireless, but now with
>> all these problems with WPA, and the security risk with WEP, I am
>> almost in the same boat again...
>> Am I crazy? Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with
>> WPA?
>> Thanks....
>
>

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In <ws76f.8$HW5.2@trnddc04> on Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:05:00 GMT, "paranoid"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I posted here a few weeks ago, that I had setup a business with WPA-PSK (
>using a dlink router).... and had problems with network drives not being
>there when software opened up, and all-in-all just a general instability
>going on...
>
>So I switched it to WEP and all was well, my plan was to go back in a few
>weeks after everything was more stable with the business setup, and switch
>it over to WPA again...
>
>Another business asked about his security with his setup. He had WEP and he
>read articles about war-driving, etc...So we switched him over to WPA, with
>a netgear router. And he is having a horrible time with it as well... Today
>he called and said his network going down every 20 minutes. The other day,
>one of his computers lost their connectivity, and we were trying to remote
>desktop into it....we had to manually connect it again from that machine.
>
>Someone said that it is the same as WEP in a sense, but I beg to differ. I
>am not exactly sure how it works, but I am sure of the results I have
>gotten. I know, usually I am against wireless anyways (always have been,
>always preferred a wired setup), but recently have been more liberal with my
>clients about the wireless, but now with all these problems with WPA, and
>the security risk with WEP, I am almost in the same boat again...
>
>Am I crazy? Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with WPA?


WPA is just as stable as WEP on all of the systems I've set up.

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> always preferred a wired setup), but recently have been more liberal with my
> clients about the wireless, but now with all these problems with WPA, and
> the security risk with WEP, I am almost in the same boat again...

You know, aside from WEP, WPA and 802.11i and VPN's, there are much more
secure solutions than any of those for wireless out there!

David.

such as.....


David Taylor wrote:
>> always preferred a wired setup), but recently have been more liberal
>> with my clients about the wireless, but now with all these problems
>> with WPA, and the security risk with WEP, I am almost in the same
>> boat again...
>
> You know, aside from WEP, WPA and 802.11i and VPN's, there are much
> more secure solutions than any of those for wireless out there!
>
> David.

>
> WPA is just as stable as WEP on all of the systems I've set up.
>
> --
>

Went and changed it to WEP, and not a lick of problems now.....I wont be
using WPA untill it gets more into its own life....

"paranoid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:ws76f.8$HW5.2@trnddc04:

> Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with WPA?
>

Yes.

"McSpreader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns96F6F3CBA30AMcP@62.253.170.163...
> "paranoid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:ws76f.8$HW5.2@trnddc04:
>
>> Am I the only one having these "instability" issues with WPA?
>>
>
> Yes.


Talked to a collegue, and he is experiencing problems too....so I am not the
only one. I also did some research on google groups, and I am not the only
one.....

WPA in my opinion, is still in Beta testing if you ask me....

> such as.....

http://www.3eti.com
http://www.cranite.com
http://www.bemac.com/ISec/section3.asp?S3ID=63

and

http://www.fortresstechnologies.com

All of the above have government/military approvals and in the case of
Fortress, takes about 10 minutes to set up, providing much greater
security (AES256), no faffing around with EAP types, needs no PKI,
doesn't do 802.1x and creates a non spoofable device ID, unlike MAC
addresses. (Other stuff too).

Wireless can be secure but the typical AP vendor solutions necessarily
aren't up to the job for government/healthcare/military/financial/gaming
market usage.

David.